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hey what's going on guys ryan sprague

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here for

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this impromptu live stream this saturday

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morning good morning

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to everyone on the east coast uh very

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early good morning to those on the west

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coast and uh

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to any of our watchers or listeners or

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what have you over

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in europe uh good afternoon thank you so

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much for coming today

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obviously we have a lot to talk about

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the

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pentagon ufo report released yesterday

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all day we were waiting like kids for

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christmas and then uh

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it finally happened and it released and

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feelings are mixed i'm sure you guys are

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uh gonna

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have your own thoughts on all this so

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i'm going to go ahead and just start

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popping your comments up here

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um rather be squidding thanks for being

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here my man

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um you know how there's that thing on

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taxes where you choose to have three for

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your taxes go to general election fund

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they should do the same for uaptf

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funding that's such a good idea man

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i'm with you on that hello to you ought

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to know ufo thank you for being here

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doug sprague is here my father thank you

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so much dad

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for hopping in uh we've got

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elias here um let's see jesse hello

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hi audrey uh

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who else andy jason

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anna scosting case for infinity stabby

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oh wow anna roa serena thank you all of

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you guys for being here

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they just keep flooding in now i'm

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nervous i didn't think anyone was gonna

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wow um well let's just kind of dive in

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and before we do that i should let you

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um the super chat is open so if you want

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to help the show out

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just click that give as much as you want

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as little as you want doesn't matter

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any help uh is it extremely appreciated

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and uh your comments will go to the top

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be featured um i'm gonna take some

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a little later on and we might also have

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i'll let you know about that hello lord

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hi sean hi robert

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open mind clarity wow

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thank you guys thank you salcedo media

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watch all your comments on here awesome

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well all right guys so let's kind of

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um all right let's get this up

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hello [\h__\h] hi grammy welcome welcome

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the preliminary assessment unidentified

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phenomena this comes from the office of

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jittery um let's see your hello welcome

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the threat um so let's just let's see

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caffeinated hello jacob

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no less than the dia fbi

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the collection challenges so this were

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a potential threat threat threat threat

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threat threat we're gonna be hearing

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ah scott austin says calling bs they

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hope it gets dropped and it blows over

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just like the original tickets in the

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um a lot of what we read in this report

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project blue book uh but some of it's

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something's coming

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uh tuesday at the latest i believe he

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said

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um so yeah be on the lookout for that

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and same with luis elizondo the former

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head of the pentagon program

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he said if this thing is like a total

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you know mundane

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boring thing where they don't say

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anything to you guys we have a

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contingency plan so um

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you can take that for what it's worth um

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i know a lot of people aren't with

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elizondo but uh hey i'll take whatever

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thank you for that case of infinity

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wk breehold says representative andre

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carson the chair of the house

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intelligence committee said on pbs

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that there will be a public hearing boom

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that's what i wanted to get to

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um this report is one thing hopefully

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we're gonna start to get some

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congressional hearings after that so i'm

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um what else do we have here

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grimey says interesting that the report

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suggests advanced scientific procedures

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may be needed to investigate such uap

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cases

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exactly grammy um i was talking to john

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greenwald earlier and he agreed that um

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that the scientific exploration and the

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advanced technology they want

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clearly isn't enough to really

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understand what these uap

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are i mean in the report we saw the

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public report i should say

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out of like those whatever 80 or

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whatnot cases they look 144

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they were able to explain one one case

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so i mean that's pretty telling right

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there that they

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really uh they're not up to speed on

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this and they're dropping the ball and

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this

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screaming how

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kind of inept all of our intelligence uh

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departments

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and military are with this topic and uh

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how they handle it so

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hopefully we're gonna see the tides

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change soon um

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i want to move to the characteristics

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that were mentioned in this thing

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i found that pretty interesting as well

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uh to national security and whatnot and

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you know the characteristics of them

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again guys super chat's open if you want

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to help out the show

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your comments go to the top and um you

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can ask questions there as well i'll try

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to feature them

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i'm doing this solo so i'm sorry for all

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the uh looking around

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and clicking buttons but uh hopefully

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we'll have some other people in here

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soon to

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talk about this i told them like 12 15

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ish so

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any of you guys i gave the link to to

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join me please uh

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feel free to hop in whenever but i'm

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going to go through this for a little

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bit longer with you guys

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um because i've also got some uh i'm

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doing a special episode where you call

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into somewhere in the skies

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and give your thoughts on what we're

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talking about here today and um

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so i'm getting a bunch of them just

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flooding in so i'm gonna make an episode

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out of that and release it to you guys

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hopefully by

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tonight um but i feature some of those

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i'm gonna be featuring some of those in

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this talk

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today as well and we have a very special

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message message from

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the one and only john greenwald jr of

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the black vault um that he's sharing

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with us too so

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be on the lookout for that

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hillary says she's listening while

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walking my dog

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nice what kind of dog do you have

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hillary let us know in the comments

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um so let's talk about the

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characteristics of uap threatening

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national security

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now this is obviously the reason that

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this report

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uh was drafted enacted and distributed

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um to show congress and to show

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pretty much everyone that these things

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could be a potential threat

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and we do need to do something about

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that um

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so yeah the characteristic sensor

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vantage points and the number of sensors

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currently observing an object plays

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substantial roles in distinguishing uap

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from known objects and determining

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whether a uap demonstrates

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breakthrough aerospace capabilities

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optical sensors have the benefit of

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providing some insight into relative

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size

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shape and structure um however

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some uap appear to remain stationary in

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winds aloft move against the wind

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maneuver abruptly

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or move at considerable speed without

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discernible means

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of propulsion so we're kind of going

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through the five observables that uh

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atip looked into

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not so dry in new york today

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um here's some of the more

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interesting things that they observed in

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the characteristics of these events

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um that i kind of want to talk about

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with you guys here

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um in a small number of cases

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this is in the report military aircraft

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systems processed

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radio frequency energy associated

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with the uap sightings so i really want

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to know

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what that means i'm not a scientist i

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don't know about radio waves and

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frequencies and

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all these different ways that they're

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able to capture these things on sensors

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but

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to me um the fact that

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these things are messing with radio

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frequencies and whatnot

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i do have to wonder what does that mean

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like is there some sort of

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did we try to communicate with the

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phenomena and it did not communicate

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back or

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what is that what is that so i

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definitely want to know more about that

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who knows if we will

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um let's see oh we got a super chat

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thank you robert i appreciate that

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you didn't even ask a question you just

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donated i really that's so kind of you

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my man i appreciate

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that um oh sean hello sean

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some of you may know sean from my area

447
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51 episode of mysteries decoded i got to

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go out to nevada

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and meet with sean and talk about his

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black triangle ufo sighting he had

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not too far from area 51. uh sean is

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featured in my book as well both

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editions so sean thanks so much man for

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hopping in here

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um nids which is the national institute

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for discovery science under bigelow

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reached the same conclusion decades ago

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in one of the reports

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in particular threats to flight safety

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by the flying black triangles i knew you

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were going to bring them up

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yeah man we're seeing a lot of mirroring

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with this thing

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and that can't be ignored uh they kind

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of

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literally copy and pasted some stuff

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from project blue book and

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and everything that came before it but

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we kind of expected that and people have

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been telling us for months

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don't get your hopes up it's going to be

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a lot of the same thing the government

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said about ufos

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we don't know what they are we um we're

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we're attempting to identify the

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unidentifiable

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uh it is not u.s technology that we're

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hiding from the public

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and uh we don't think it it raises a

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potential threat

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what's interesting is a lot of this is

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saying it does

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it is a potential threat and we have to

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wonder what the motives are behind that

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which we'll get to

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um but let's talk about this other

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interesting thing in the report it said

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that the ua ptf

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has 11 reports of documented instances

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in which pilots reported near

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misses with uap that's troubling

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near misses with these things if that's

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not a threat i don't know what is and

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i'm not big on this whole threat

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narrative thing

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but um that's threat that's dangerous i

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mean we heard from people from the tic

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tac event that this could have

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you know hit them it could it knew it

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was reacting to what they were doing it

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knew what was going on

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so it could be a potential threat since

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we don't know what it is we don't know

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what it wants

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so yeah i thought that was interesting

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remember when the air force grabbed the

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hard drives from the navy nimitz yeah

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yeah i gotta wonder why case for

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infinity why they did that

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um well i says well some of it is hidden

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tech and i have to completely

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agree i do not believe for a second that

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none of these reports they came across

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uh that not one of them was

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advanced black budget us tech i i just

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don't buy that part of it

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at all whatsoever so um we have to keep

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that in mind too

519
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um let's talk about um let's see here

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let's talk about kind of how they

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analyze these things and what they um

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kind of the conclusions that they came

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to

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um yeah let's do that airborne clutter

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these objects include let me pull it up

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for you guys again this is super

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forgive me

528
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thank you for being here guys hi robert

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thank you so much

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airborne clutter so this is what the

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report says these objects

532
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um this is kind of what they explained

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that the uap

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could be but they're not quite sure or

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they did

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find this explanation for some of them

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these objects include birds balloons

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recreational unmanned aerial vehicles

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um i'm assuming such as drones and

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whatnot or airborne debris like

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plastic bags that muddle a scene and

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affect an operator's ability to identify

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true targets

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such as enemy aircraft yeah so we don't

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want any plastic bags getting in the way

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of our pilots

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while they're chasing an enemy aircraft

548
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or possibly

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a ufo if the bag is not the ufo itself

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so

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that was pretty interesting scott thank

552
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you so much i appreciate that

553
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um keep up the great work appreciate

554
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everything you do for the community from

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colorado

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thank you so much my man i gotta get

557
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back to colorado

558
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get back to red rocks i love it there hi

559
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hi terry thank you for being here

560
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i appreciate it like i mentioned guys if

561
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you want to help out the show

562
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the super chat's open i'll put your

563
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comments and questions at the top

564
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and um anything's appreciated but never

565
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expected i'm doing this because i

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am really excited about the future of

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what this may hold

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and again i know a lot of you are not so

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yeah yeah yeah

570
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:22,880
stabby says sure like i agree with that

571
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:29,669
oh hello celcita media says um salcido

572
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,000
excuse

573
00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:32,320
me there have been too many reports over

574
00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:33,679
the years for all of it to be

575
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:36,080
misidentification hoaxes exaggerations

576
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,520
100 100 and um

577
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:41,200
we're going to talk about a little bit

578
00:21:45,029 --> 00:21:43,280
of what we didn't see in the report and

579
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:45,039
i think that's important too

580
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:48,720
not a single mention of um

581
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,679
extraterrestrial which we should assume

582
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:53,280
that they weren't going to go there

583
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:55,440
um you know even even the new york

584
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:56,320
headline

585
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:57,840
when the leak came out of the classified

586
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:59,760
report it said but they're not ruling it

587
00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:00,799
out so

588
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:02,400
yeah you can't you can't rule anything

589
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:04,000
out in my personal opinion

590
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:07,360
um this isn't like a one-stop conclusion

591
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:09,840
for all ufos when they explain away

592
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:10,960
these things so

593
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:13,840
we got to keep that in mind um the next

594
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,240
one

595
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:16,320
natural atmospheric phenomena is

596
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:17,360
something they looked at

597
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:19,360
um it includes ice crystals moisture

598
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,720
thermal fluctuations

599
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,559
that may register on some infrared and

600
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,159
radar systems

601
00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:26,960
um this one really caught my attention i

602
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:28,559
want to hear what you guys think

603
00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:30,799
uh united states government or industry

604
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:32,080
development program

605
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,400
some uap observations could be

606
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:36,000
attributable to develop

607
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:39,760
classified programs by u.s

608
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:42,400
entities we were unable to confirm

609
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:44,640
however that these systems accounted for

610
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:48,080
any of the uap reports we collected

611
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:51,039
so there's two problems with that um

612
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:51,600
they

613
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,440
said that none of this was us tech um

614
00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:57,679
and out of all of them that they looked

615
00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:59,919
at that none of them were black budget

616
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:01,520
projects someone mentioned

617
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:04,480
the department of energy earlier um

618
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,360
these

619
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:07,360
that department doesn't have to answer

620
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:08,480
to anyone

621
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:11,280
so we have to keep that door open uh

622
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:13,200
that this could possibly be some sort of

623
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:13,679
different

624
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,480
developmental program some of these uaps

625
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:17,679
some of them some of them

626
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,799
um foreign adversary systems some uap

627
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:22,720
may be technologies deployed by china

628
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:23,360
russia

629
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,520
non-governmental governmental entity

630
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:29,280
while

631
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:30,720
should have done my vocal warm-ups

632
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,039
before this um

633
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:35,360
and here's the important one that they

634
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:37,200
left at the bottom

635
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:40,480
other although most of the uap described

636
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,000
in our data set probably remain

637
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,919
unidentified due to limited data

638
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:46,320
or challenges to collection processes or

639
00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,200
analysis

640
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:49,760
we may require additional scientific

641
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:50,480
knowledge

642
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:52,720
to successfully collect on analyze and

643
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,760
characterize

644
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,159
some of them we would group such objects

645
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:58,080
in this category pending scientific

646
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,960
advances

647
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,559
that allowed us to better understand

648
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:02,559
them the uaptf

649
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,600
intends to focus additional analysis on

650
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,200
the small number of cases

651
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,360
where a uap appeared to display unusual

652
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:10,880
flight characteristics

653
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,320
or signature management so

654
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,400
that i feel is kind of their way of

655
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:18,960
tiptoeing around uh

656
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:21,440
literally anything but man-made

657
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,240
technology or um anomalous phenomena

658
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:25,919
which i found really interesting and

659
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:28,240
that they want to continue collecting

660
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:28,960
this

661
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,039
and use science to try to explain them

662
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:36,080
so that's exciting in my opinion

663
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,799
um that this isn't it this isn't it i

664
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:40,559
try to keep telling people that

665
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:44,320
um lowlands hello

666
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,360
um let's see

667
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:49,279
brian says it's cute that they made five

668
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:51,039
broad categories

669
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:52,799
and then admitted that they only can

670
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:55,200
move one of the 140 reports into any of

671
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:56,400
them other than other

672
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,919
that's a good point that's a really good

673
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:59,520
point um the amount that they weren't

674
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,960
able to explain at least in this public

675
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:02,640
report does trouble me

676
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:06,240
um but hey we wanted unexplained

677
00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:09,679
cases what we didn't get was any photos

678
00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:13,840
any videos any um kind of on the record

679
00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:14,480
uh

680
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,480
statements from any of the congress

681
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:18,480
people who are briefed on all this

682
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,360
or anything like that yet yet uh we do

683
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,799
have a couple quotes which i'm gonna

684
00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:24,240
share with you guys but um

685
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:27,120
some very good points brought up so they

686
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:28,480
are trying to blame

687
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:29,919
brian says so they're trying to blame

688
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,000
uap on tony stark

689
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,720
exactly well let's talk about darpa like

690
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:36,080
probably the most

691
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:38,720
secretive um you know advanced

692
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:39,679
technology

693
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:42,159
apparatus that works for the military

694
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:43,840
that works for the pentagon and

695
00:25:49,430 --> 00:25:47,200
the defense department um i was really

696
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:49,440
surprised that they were included in

697
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:50,480
this again

698
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:54,559
even going to darpa apparently the uap

699
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:56,400
pentagon task force did not

700
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:58,159
um they said no it's not anything of

701
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,440
ours so that's

702
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:01,200
it's pretty interesting none of it was

703
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:02,960
theirs crazy

704
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:10,070
you want to know ufo ryan does your dad

705
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:11,919
believe in uap i'll let him speak for

706
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,559
yourself

707
00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,320
um comment dad if you're still watching

708
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:16,640
this um we did have a ufo sighting

709
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,600
together when

710
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:20,480
i was a kid um up in upstate new york so

711
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,200
um

712
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:23,840
i had him share that on my last live

713
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,400
stream

714
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,400
a little bit about our ufo encounter and

715
00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:27,919
um his thoughts on it

716
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:30,080
and uh yeah we'll see if he says

717
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,440
anything but um

718
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,120
yeah we'll see we'll see i don't want to

719
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,120
speak for him just yet

720
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:37,600
um let's see rather thank you so much

721
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,799
brother i appreciate

722
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,720
appreciate the super chat should we

723
00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:42,000
start calling them others

724
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:44,080
instead of uap thanks for the morning

725
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:45,360
show my pleasure buddy

726
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,039
my pleasure thank you to all of you for

727
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:49,360
being here 87 watching live

728
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:50,400
i thought there's gonna be like two

729
00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:53,679
people here so thank you

730
00:26:58,549 --> 00:26:57,039
um other yeah i mean at this point man

731
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,559
there's so many terms

732
00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:00,400
i mean kind of the big one now is uap

733
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,159
obviously which i think is good

734
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:04,480
it broadens the scope of the phenomena

735
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,520
we're dealing with

736
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:07,919
it does strip the baggage away from the

737
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,840
uh the ufo

738
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:12,159
terminology which was coined by the us

739
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,120
air force

740
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:15,679
to begin with so i think it's progress

741
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,559
um

742
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,640
there's so many different words and

743
00:27:23,669 --> 00:27:20,559
names for this stuff you know

744
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,679
uav ufo uap uh

745
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:25,520
god the lingo is crazy and that's the

746
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:28,159
issue um that's the issue right there

747
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:31,360
is every intelligence agency um the fbi

748
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,880
the faa

749
00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:35,279
um and every military branch has

750
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,360
different terms for these quote unquote

751
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:39,279
ufos uap

752
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,039
so that's confusing and that's why this

753
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:44,960
report was drafted the way it was by

754
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:46,240
christopher mellon and

755
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,080
and many other people including members

756
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:49,840
of the senate intelligence committee

757
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:52,880
um that they wanted a concise

758
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,520
language one language between everything

759
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,360
to talk about these things

760
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,480
and um not to hold information

761
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:02,799
in the air force in the navy in uh the

762
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:03,520
cia

763
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:06,000
in the nsa like everyone come together

764
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:07,919
and let's figure out this mystery

765
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:10,720
um and this potential threat uh threat

766
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:11,520
the threat

767
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,840
so yeah we gotta keep that in mind as

768
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,559
well

769
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,799
cairo welcome cairo hi ryan do you think

770
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,399
the report is a major departure from

771
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,000
their previous stance or denial

772
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,360
no it's not a major departure again um

773
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,919
i i just went through the robertson

774
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:29,440
panel conclusions and the content

775
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,159
committee

776
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:32,000
on my last live stream and we're seeing

777
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,200
a lot of the same stuff

778
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:35,520
being said almost verbatim in some

779
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,399
senses so

780
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,720
i mean i kind of expected that because

781
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:40,640
we have to keep in mind this uap task

782
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:41,039
force

783
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:44,720
is new uh that we know of is new

784
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:48,000
and the people that uh comprise it their

785
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,320
job was not they didn't get into this to

786
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,240
investigate ufos whatever department

787
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,320
they work for and who's doing this

788
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,799
and um they i doubt they ever imagined

789
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:58,320
they would be doing this just like

790
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:01,600
luis elizondo did with atip so um

791
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,279
they're gonna make mistakes along the

792
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:05,440
way uh a lot of them

793
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,880
so i think we got to give them a little

794
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,720
leeway this is a

795
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:11,200
preliminary assessment which i want to

796
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,320
keep stressing

797
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,200
um this isn't it hopefully we're going

798
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:17,200
to get more hopefully hopefully

799
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:21,120
um so i guess let's cut him some slack

800
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,399
again i know a lot of people

801
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,480
hated this report um but i think there's

802
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,480
some nuggets in there um

803
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:27,840
one of which i want to share with you

804
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:31,120
guys now standardize the reporting let

805
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:31,760
me see

806
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,549
i guess i already passed it um

807
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,789
this i found really interesting um the

808
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,360
ua ptf long-term goal is to widen the

809
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:51,200
scope of its work to include additional

810
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,480
uap events

811
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:55,760
documented by a broader swath of united

812
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:57,279
states government personnel

813
00:30:00,870 --> 00:30:00,480
and technical systems in its analysis um

814
00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:00,880
so

815
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:03,919
what does that mean to me that says

816
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,720
broadening their swath in additional uap

817
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:07,679
events

818
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,159
is it possible that we might get

819
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:12,320
something like project blue book

820
00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:15,760
um or a civilian investigative

821
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,960
branch of the uaptf where the data

822
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,440
from the thousands of people all over

823
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:23,919
the world every day having ufo

824
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,360
uh sightings and um you know

825
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:30,000
filming them taking photos will it come

826
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:31,679
to a point where the pentagon

827
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,039
task force will actually look at

828
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,120
civilian stuff i hope so

829
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:37,600
i hope you know hopefully it won't be a

830
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:38,880
debunking

831
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:41,200
thing but a very skeptical and objective

832
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,159
approach to it

833
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,640
so that's exciting we might get uh the

834
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,320
government looking at

835
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:48,240
civilian ufo cases again i could be

836
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:49,760
completely wrong but

837
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:52,080
who knows who knows as the data set

838
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:54,960
increases the ua ptf's ability to employ

839
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:55,919
data and

840
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:58,559
analytics to detect trends will also

841
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,039
improve

842
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,360
again that's what we should be doing

843
00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:03,360
finding patterns with all these things

844
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:05,120
the initial focus will be to employ

845
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:06,960
artificial intelligence

846
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:09,600
machine learning algorithms to cluster

847
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:12,000
and recognize similarities and patterns

848
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,279
in features of the data points

849
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:17,440
that is skyhub for anyone who didn't

850
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:18,480
hear my my

851
00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:20,720
interview with christopher cogswell dr

852
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:21,679
doctorfer

853
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,240
dr christopher cogswell um who might

854
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:25,679
actually be here i'm not sure

855
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:28,799
um that's what skyhub was created for

856
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:31,279
so that we could monitor uap activity

857
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:32,559
out there every day

858
00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:35,120
and this software that they created can

859
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:36,320
literally

860
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:39,679
capture in in anomaly or anything

861
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:42,640
in the sky and using algorithms and

862
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:43,679
machine learning

863
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:46,960
determine what it is so these skyhub

864
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,679
machines

865
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:49,360
it's capturing planes and it's going to

866
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,720
tell you there's a plane

867
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:52,000
it's capturing birds it's going to tell

868
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:53,679
you it was a bird it was a satellite it

869
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:54,720
was this it was that

870
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:57,120
or it's still anomalous and

871
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,080
unexplainable

872
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,720
so as the machine learns what things are

873
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:02,320
you know it narrows in on what these

874
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:03,360
things could be

875
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,960
so this is exactly what the pentagon

876
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:06,720
task force wants to do

877
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:10,240
so i say they should just hire skyhub to

878
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:11,039
do this

879
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,960
um they already have the software it's

880
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:14,720
all done for you

881
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,760
pentagon so um yeah if any of

882
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,600
any spooks out there listening reach out

883
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:21,120
to skyhub.org

884
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:23,760
um they're a step ahead of you already

885
00:32:27,029 --> 00:32:25,279
and i don't think you want that

886
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:27,039
um as the database accumulates

887
00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,960
information from known aerial objects

888
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:30,720
such as weather balloons

889
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,600
weather balloons god damn it high

890
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:35,519
altitude or super pressure balloons and

891
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,320
wildlife

892
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,640
machine learning can add efficiency by

893
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,320
pre-assessing uap reports they're

894
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:42,880
literally saying what i just said um

895
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:45,679
yeah so that was pretty interesting they

896
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:46,960
also said

897
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:49,279
the ua ptf has indicated an additional

898
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,240
funding is

899
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,880
is has indicated that they want to look

900
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:54,640
for additional funding for research and

901
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,600
development

902
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,200
which could further the future study of

903
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:59,519
the topic laid out in this report

904
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:01,279
such investments should be guided by a

905
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:03,519
uap collection strategy

906
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:06,320
like we mentioned uap r d technical

907
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,120
roadmap

908
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,159
and a uap program plan

909
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:13,360
which is really cool um so i'm gonna go

910
00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:14,880
to the comments here just for a minute

911
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:16,480
guys before i share our next

912
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:18,640
thing skyhub rocks christopher says i

913
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,960
agree

914
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,159
they need to combine all of the

915
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:24,000
monitoring systems as

916
00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:26,320
and um at their disposal so they can

917
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:27,120
work together

918
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,880
exactly exactly and that's going to cost

919
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,320
a lot of money like you say

920
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,360
um again a lot of people think

921
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:36,080
all of this was created to increase the

922
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,799
budget

923
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,880
of the military and the department of

924
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:40,399
defense and this and that

925
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:43,679
and i cannot disprove that by any means

926
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:47,600
and some of it might be that but um

927
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,000
i i don't think they need this whole uap

928
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:54,720
topic or issue to get money all they

929
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:55,679
have to say is

930
00:34:00,789 --> 00:33:58,000
yo russia hacked us again let's get two

931
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:00,799
billion more dollars for security or um

932
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:03,600
you know china's threatening us again

933
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:04,399
let's uh let's

934
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:06,799
let's work on that or um we've got a lot

935
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,359
of you know threats lately from uh

936
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,760
terrorist groups so let's uh let's make

937
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:13,200
sure nothing happens

938
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,639
you know salute um but

939
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,240
i don't see why they would be using this

940
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:20,000
whole ufo thing to increase

941
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:23,040
budgets they don't need to do that um i

942
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:23,919
think this is

943
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:27,359
a genuine curiosity by the people who

944
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:29,919
drafted this request not necessarily

945
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:32,480
the pentagon or the military certainly

946
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:34,159
members in both of those

947
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,440
really probably want to know what these

948
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:37,760
things are members of congress too

949
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:40,639
um but i do think uh they were backed

950
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:41,520
into a corner

951
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:43,280
and they had to approach this any way

952
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:45,200
they could so they went back

953
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,639
in the history of the united states

954
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:48,560
government involvement with ufos

955
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,079
and took a lot from the earlier

956
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,079
playbooks but um

957
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:54,000
i think there's some really really cool

958
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,919
stuff too um

959
00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:57,440
so yeah let's let's see what else you

960
00:35:02,069 --> 00:35:00,079
guys are saying here

961
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:02,079
for anyone just joining us thank you for

962
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:03,680
being here wow we're up to like 90

963
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,240
people

964
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,960
that's so cool um welcome rodrigo

965
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,079
lowlands

966
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:10,240
uh debbie welcome welcome to everyone if

967
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,599
i didn't see you

968
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:13,359
i apologize if i'm not saying hello

969
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,320
hello ian

970
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:18,640
let's see rather says yeah i'm a techie

971
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:19,520
and i'm pretty damn

972
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:21,760
intimidated by it but gotta start

973
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:24,160
somewhere

974
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:27,839
agreed uh internet ufo database says

975
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,160
guys i think nora does the same thing

976
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,640
um just need updated tech i remember

977
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:34,400
when um

978
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,760
jacques valet was on joe rogan recently

979
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:39,839
and he talked about that he went to

980
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:41,119
norad and

981
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:43,440
straight up like ass like do you guys

982
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:45,040
get like anomalous

983
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:47,440
ufo activity do you monitor that stuff

984
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,320
or capture it

985
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,720
like yeah thousands thousands of them

986
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:52,480
like what do you do with that data

987
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,040
without in

988
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:55,520
that information and they literally told

989
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,480
jockville

990
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,480
nothing we throw it out you know it's

991
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,240
not a threat and um

992
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:03,359
we we just move it aside moving on so

993
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:04,480
that

994
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:08,320
irresponsible things you could do

995
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,839
um i know a lot of that comes with the

996
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:11,760
stigma and ridicule in reporting these

997
00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:12,560
things

998
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:14,960
uh but hey hopefully we'll see a change

999
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:16,160
in norad too

1000
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,950
one sec here guys

1001
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,960
we should have some surprise guests

1002
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,480
coming up soon

1003
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:32,480
i'll give you the go guys when you can

1004
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:38,710
all right hello lee kim 39 welcome

1005
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,400
ethereal aura is here uh

1006
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:44,160
they say i commented yesterday i do

1007
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,920
believe the ufo stigma also caused

1008
00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:47,359
general incidents that are a little

1009
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,880
weird not to be reported to

1010
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:51,200
that's a major intel issue completely

1011
00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:54,720
agreed completely agreed

1012
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:58,160
um let's move

1013
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,760
to uh the cons of this thing i know a

1014
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,960
lot of people

1015
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,800
uh commented on my twitter and

1016
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:06,480
everything um about

1017
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:08,720
about like what was bad about this and

1018
00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:09,839
honestly

1019
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:12,320
uh a lot it shows that they still have

1020
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:14,240
absolutely no idea what's going on

1021
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:17,680
um it shows that uh the

1022
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,000
the investigations that they did do that

1023
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,400
they didn't have enough resources or

1024
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:24,480
technology to truly understand what

1025
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:25,839
we're dealing with

1026
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,880
um so that's a problem too so i really

1027
00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:30,960
feel like this is the ua ptf being like

1028
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:32,880
we need more resources we need more

1029
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:34,720
people involved like

1030
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:37,200
no more two people in a basement looking

1031
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:39,760
at this stuff we need like an actual

1032
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:42,880
floor or department to look into this so

1033
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:45,040
i thought that was pretty cool um i

1034
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:46,480
mentioned earlier

1035
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:49,440
not a single case specific case was

1036
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:51,760
mentioned in this nine pages

1037
00:37:55,349 --> 00:37:53,760
um the only one i think they talked

1038
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:55,359
about was the one that they

1039
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,920
uh were able to determine was a balloon

1040
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:58,880
of some sort

1041
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,880
which possibly could have been the omaha

1042
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:03,359
incident the video that jeremy corbell

1043
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:04,079
released

1044
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,440
um because a lot of people did believe

1045
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:07,040
that was some sort of balloon so maybe

1046
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,839
that was it

1047
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:10,000
but they didn't name a single case in

1048
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,359
this we got

1049
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:13,760
absolutely no photos absolutely no

1050
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,400
videos

1051
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:16,560
which is again what the public wants

1052
00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:18,079
like give those to us

1053
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:21,200
um and we also

1054
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,839
didn't hear any mention of nuclear

1055
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,440
incursions by uap

1056
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:28,079
which is a huge hot topic and uh you

1057
00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:29,680
know maybe they were a little afraid to

1058
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:30,480
go there

1059
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:34,160
but um it's alarming when so many

1060
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:35,760
incidents have happened over nuclear

1061
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,200
sites and uh

1062
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:39,680
i hope they are looking into that as

1063
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:41,119
well i know it's highly sensitive and

1064
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,240
that was probably in

1065
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:44,400
the classified version so who really

1066
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:45,680
knows um

1067
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:49,119
no mention of e.t

1068
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:51,599
no aliens guys wasn't mentioned once in

1069
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,560
this report

1070
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:54,240
i personally didn't think it was gonna i

1071
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,079
don't think anyone really did

1072
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,480
but they can't rule it out but yeah not

1073
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,000
a single mention of aliens

1074
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,240
whatsoever so sorry to you guys out

1075
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:04,800
there christopher says mulder and skully

1076
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:13,190
this is my my name tag over here

1077
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,270
orange freak says would be great to have

1078
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,040
discussions on the uap topic with not

1079
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:23,040
just european countries too but africa

1080
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:23,839
middle east

1081
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,400
yes asia um especially india and

1082
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:28,000
southeast asia besides japan

1083
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,480
south korea and taiwan such a good point

1084
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:32,320
and i think that's what people like luis

1085
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:34,400
elizondo are trying to do right now

1086
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:36,000
we're looking at this from very

1087
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:37,760
westernized from the united states

1088
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:38,560
government

1089
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:41,520
and military apparatus when these uap

1090
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,079
phenomena

1091
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:44,320
are happening all over the world all the

1092
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:45,200
time and

1093
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,720
other governments are looking into it

1094
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,040
and are a hell of a lot more transparent

1095
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:51,920
with their civilians and uh you know the

1096
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:54,079
people they essentially work for

1097
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:57,599
with this topic so i think

1098
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,040
it's really important that we keep

1099
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:00,960
stressing that this report was brought

1100
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:03,040
out to shed stigma and ridicule on the

1101
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:03,760
topic

1102
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,680
and get the military and get

1103
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:07,200
intelligence officials

1104
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,280
uh more ready to talk about it and to

1105
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:13,200
approach it and to look into it

1106
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,839
from the threat angle which again that's

1107
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,720
why

1108
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,640
of course they're gonna do that but

1109
00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:20,160
again i have faith

1110
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:23,280
i i i have faith that we'll get more

1111
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:26,000
something but in this one no videos no

1112
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,560
photos

1113
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:28,720
nothing oh no mention of commercial

1114
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:30,560
pilots or civilians either we did say

1115
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,440
that earlier

1116
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,960
i want to know like what what what did

1117
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,480
the fbi look at

1118
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:36,560
like they were included in this too and

1119
00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:39,920
i know you know there was an event in um

1120
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,800
what was it oregon arizona no i think it

1121
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,319
was arizona recently

1122
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,079
where we got that audio of the pilot

1123
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,920
saying i can't believe i'm saying this

1124
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,119
but um

1125
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:51,599
i'm seeing a disc and it just flew right

1126
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:52,640
past

1127
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:55,760
my plane um don't think it was a missile

1128
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:58,240
but uh yeah i i don't know what it was

1129
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,280
do you have anything

1130
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,680
and you know faa went back to him and

1131
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:02,800
said no

1132
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:05,599
um and then you know a day after that

1133
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,359
came out the audio was leaked

1134
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:10,000
of course everyone started um you know

1135
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:11,359
asking the faa and they said

1136
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,240
we we are not involved anymore we sent

1137
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,839
it over to the fbi so

1138
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:17,280
i think a lot of these commercial

1139
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:19,760
aviation reports are going to the fbi

1140
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:20,880
and i don't know why we didn't hear

1141
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,359
anything about this in in the report um

1142
00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:24,800
again it's probably in the classified

1143
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,400
version but i wanna i wanna hear about

1144
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:27,760
that i wanna hear about more

1145
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:31,520
commercial pilot sightings too um

1146
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,470
uh brian says the dearth of evidence and

1147
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:44,240
explanations was saddening i just want

1148
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,000
to know how many pages

1149
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:48,160
are in the classified report yeah i

1150
00:41:52,309 --> 00:41:49,119
don't know man

1151
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:52,319
um how many i think they said 70

1152
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,400
were what was brief to congress and

1153
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:56,640
whatnot but who knows how many in the

1154
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:59,280
you know the upper echelon of the report

1155
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,839
uh

1156
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:03,680
i it's

1157
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:06,960
it's sad to think how much is in there

1158
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:10,560
and um they gave us eight pages

1159
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:13,599
one was an appendix like i said uh

1160
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,800
so that's definitely disheartening and a

1161
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,400
little um

1162
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:20,240
disparaging that they think so little of

1163
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:21,760
us that they can only share

1164
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:24,960
that amount but again i think this is

1165
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:25,359
just

1166
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:27,920
the beginning of what will hopefully be

1167
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,800
more discussion

1168
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:31,520
and more investigation by the pentagon

1169
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:32,800
um

1170
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:35,200
let's talk about the statements that

1171
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:37,040
have been made since then not many

1172
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,720
again i think that's a big reason that

1173
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:40,720
they dropped this on a friday

1174
00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:43,200
uh because they knew that a lot of news

1175
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:44,960
stations and whatnot would pick

1176
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:47,680
wouldn't pick it up uh over the weekend

1177
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:48,240
a lot of people

1178
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:50,480
aren't watching the news on the weekends

1179
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:51,359
um but

1180
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,720
there's a bunch of you watching this now

1181
00:42:57,670 --> 00:42:54,560
so i truly appreciate that

1182
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,680
uh that that's why they did it um

1183
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:59,520
you know the least amount of blowback

1184
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:00,800
they can get so

1185
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,880
um but but two interesting things i

1186
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:06,480
think came out of this i'm first gonna

1187
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,480
read the statement by um

1188
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:11,440
the pentagon press secretary john kirby

1189
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:12,319
and he

1190
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:17,040
said uh let's

1191
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:20,800
i think we looked enough at that report

1192
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:23,760
um yeah so john kirby said in an

1193
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,880
official statement

1194
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:26,880
that the deputy secretary of defense

1195
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,359
kathleen hicks today directed the office

1196
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,359
of the under secretary of defense for

1197
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,280
intelligence and security

1198
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:35,359
to develop a plan to formalize the

1199
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,560
mission currently performed by the uaptf

1200
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,000
this plan will be developed in

1201
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,760
coordination with the various dod

1202
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:42,720
components

1203
00:43:46,309 --> 00:43:44,880
including the military departments and

1204
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:46,319
the combatant

1205
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:49,280
commands and with the office uh director

1206
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:50,960
of national intelligence

1207
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:53,040
and other interagency partners the plan

1208
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,000
will be to establish

1209
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:56,079
procedures for synchronizing collection

1210
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,599
reporting and analysis

1211
00:44:01,109 --> 00:44:00,240
analysis of uap we talked about some of

1212
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,119
this earlier

1213
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,839
um it will provide recommendations for

1214
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:06,000
securing military tests and training

1215
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,800
ranges

1216
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,560
and identify requirements for the

1217
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:11,359
establishment and operation of a new

1218
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:14,800
follow-on department of defense activity

1219
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,800
to lead the effort including its

1220
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:18,800
alignment resources staffing

1221
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,839
authorities and a timeline for

1222
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,560
implementation so

1223
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:24,960
we might be getting something other than

1224
00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:26,960
just the pentagon task force

1225
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:30,000
that was tasked to do this report and

1226
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,960
nothing more

1227
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:32,560
they didn't have to do anything after

1228
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,000
this they literally

1229
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:37,040
only answered what was requested of them

1230
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,160
again they're not going to give us

1231
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:40,800
everything um so they did their job

1232
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:43,520
this task force did their job uh so the

1233
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:44,240
dod

1234
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,599
it sounds like is kind of like all right

1235
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,280
we'll pick up the ball from here um

1236
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:49,520
whether that's good or bad i don't know

1237
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:52,480
but this was interesting staffing

1238
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:53,359
authorities

1239
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,800
and a timeline for implementation um

1240
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,800
let's pull up actually i think i have

1241
00:45:04,710 --> 00:44:59,920
the

1242
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:04,720
defense

1243
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:15,430
this is weird i don't like this

1244
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:19,200
anyways i am a document uh all right

1245
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:21,520
all reports must be reported within two

1246
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,960
weeks of an incident

1247
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,200
in this memo from department of defense

1248
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:26,880
i thought that was pretty interesting

1249
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:29,839
um as rapid response as you can get we

1250
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:31,280
know that a lot of these uap

1251
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,560
come and go in the blink of an eye and

1252
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,240
there's nothing to investigate there's

1253
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,680
nothing to um

1254
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:38,800
to chase after um so yeah i thought that

1255
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,000
was pretty interesting

1256
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:43,200
and also um that they want to staff this

1257
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,760
thing

1258
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:45,359
they want to get a bunch of people

1259
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,880
involved so again

1260
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,880
we might be seeing some sort of

1261
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:51,200
permanent ufo program

1262
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:54,640
again which is exciting um

1263
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:56,240
i think it's exciting what do you guys

1264
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,599
think let me go back to the comments

1265
00:46:05,510 --> 00:45:59,760
here

1266
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,030
all right

1267
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:12,630
yeah ethereum says outlining feature

1268
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:14,160
research framework

1269
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,270
you ought to know says two weeks is a

1270
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:21,599
long time it is i i get that i get that

1271
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:21,920
but

1272
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:25,040
um hopefully it'll put fire under some

1273
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,560
of these people to get the reports in a

1274
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,160
little quicker a little

1275
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,560
quicker dod is finally creating what

1276
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:32,160
rubio actually asked for back in

1277
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,880
december

1278
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,319
this is what they should have done all

1279
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:36,000
along amen aaron

1280
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,599
i agree with you and i'm so glad that

1281
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:39,359
the dod was so

1282
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,319
reactionary when this report came out um

1283
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:44,079
because i think they were like

1284
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:47,200
come on like really we we gotta make it

1285
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:48,640
sound a little better than this and we

1286
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:49,520
have to um

1287
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:52,079
show the public that we're still gonna

1288
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:52,960
look into it i

1289
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:56,400
i firmly believe that

1290
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,520
uh blue book version two agreed agreed

1291
00:47:05,829 --> 00:47:03,760
if you're just joining us guys we are

1292
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,839
talking all about the uap report and

1293
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:07,440
what people thought about it

1294
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,920
and everything and um you know what we

1295
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:11,119
can expect next i

1296
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,319
i have faith that we're gonna get

1297
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:14,480
something a few other people do as well

1298
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,599
which we'll get to

1299
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:17,440
but let's talk about there's two quotes

1300
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:19,440
after the report came out from

1301
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:21,680
two members of the senate intelligence

1302
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,200
committee um

1303
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:25,520
and uh first we have marco rubio and he

1304
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,280
said for years the men and women were

1305
00:47:31,270 --> 00:47:29,200
we trust to defend our country reported

1306
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:31,280
encounters with unidentified aircraft

1307
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,640
that had superior

1308
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:34,480
capabilities and for years their

1309
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,760
concerns were often

1310
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:38,480
ignored and ridiculed this report is an

1311
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,440
important first

1312
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:41,920
step first step in cataloging these

1313
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:42,720
incidents

1314
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,680
but it is just a first step again that

1315
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,680
comes from vice chairman marco rubio

1316
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:49,359
of the senate intelligence committee and

1317
00:47:54,030 --> 00:47:52,400
also from the um the sci was mark warner

1318
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,040
um and he said today's rather

1319
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,079
inconclusive report

1320
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:58,000
only marks the beginning of efforts to

1321
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,920
understand and illuminate

1322
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:02,160
what is causing these risks to aviation

1323
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:04,240
in many areas around the country

1324
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:07,440
and the world so yeah even our senators

1325
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,480
and whatnot are like

1326
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:10,240
i know i know it's not what you guys

1327
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,839
expected and probably

1328
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:14,319
we probably didn't do the best job um

1329
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,760
you know in investigating these things

1330
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,040
but we want to keep trying

1331
00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:19,200
so i hope hope hope no matter your

1332
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:20,559
thoughts on um

1333
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:23,119
marco rubio or uh mark warner any

1334
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,160
senators

1335
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:26,079
whatever aisle you know side of the i o

1336
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:27,280
you're on that uh

1337
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:30,480
this topic seems to be bringing

1338
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:32,960
people together here in the public and

1339
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,599
even um in bipartisan issues

1340
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,960
so i think that's pretty cool that

1341
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:38,640
they're all kind of working together for

1342
00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,440
once

1343
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,760
um god i never thought i'd see that

1344
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:43,040
again um

1345
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:46,240
on this topic uh so yeah yeah i think

1346
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:47,839
that's pretty interesting what they both

1347
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:48,880
said that this

1348
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:51,440
this is just the beginning um let's see

1349
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:53,040
what else people are saying what's up

1350
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:54,720
donald thank you for being here ricardo

1351
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,599
hello

1352
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:58,000
it's all about transparency yes and

1353
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,160
hopefully we'll get more of that soon

1354
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:04,160
uh christopher says for those that are

1355
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:05,760
disappointed about the report remind

1356
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:07,599
yourself where we were merely three

1357
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,640
years ago

1358
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:10,960
acknowledging is a huge problem is huge

1359
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:11,680
progress

1360
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:14,640
i couldn't agree more um yeah we'll take

1361
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:16,000
what we can get for now and it's

1362
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:19,520
an acknowledgement and um the

1363
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:22,720
media and uh the the pentagon are taking

1364
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:24,319
this seriously

1365
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:30,000
so yeah i think that's pretty cool um

1366
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,359
is an interesting question you ought to

1367
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:32,880
know says will the search for this new

1368
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:35,119
tech start another kind of space race

1369
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:38,000
or a cold war good i mean china just

1370
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:39,359
announced that they are

1371
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,160
creating their own uh task force to look

1372
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,079
into ufos and they're using

1373
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:46,400
artificial intelligence just like we

1374
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,680
heard in this report

1375
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,640
which i think was reaction a reaction to

1376
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:52,240
china announcing that they were doing

1377
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:52,800
that

1378
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:55,920
um so we might see some sort of cold war

1379
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:58,079
going on with trying to identify these

1380
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,720
uap

1381
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:01,040
and how can we harness that technology

1382
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,440
so it can either be super dangerous

1383
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:06,240
or um super exciting um probably both i

1384
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:07,280
don't know but

1385
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:10,800
i think that was interesting um let me

1386
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:13,920
move for just a moment here to uh some

1387
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,359
of your guys thoughts on this

1388
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:17,520
all of you watching this right now uh

1389
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,119
like i mentioned earlier

1390
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:21,280
i'm gonna be putting out a a bonus

1391
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,559
podcast episode

1392
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:25,200
with all of you listeners and supporters

1393
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:26,480
of summer in the skies

1394
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:27,760
calling in and telling me what you

1395
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:29,359
thought about this report and where we

1396
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:30,240
go from here

1397
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,680
so i'm going to share three of those

1398
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,079
with you right now um this is just a

1399
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:35,680
small taste we've got

1400
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:38,319
um who do we have we have dan

1401
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,280
zetterstrom

1402
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,440
uh from the signal on twitter and the

1403
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:43,440
uap media group uk

1404
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:45,680
we have uh chrissy newton from the

1405
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:46,480
debrief

1406
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,920
and we have ryan robbins ufo jesus

1407
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:52,079
uh from youtube um and they're gonna

1408
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:53,359
give you guys some of their thoughts

1409
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:54,079
while i get

1410
00:51:01,510 --> 00:50:59,359
our next um stuff ready to go 144 cases

1411
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,520
one solved people should look at this

1412
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:02,720
uap task quote

1413
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:05,760
report as monumental we've been told

1414
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:09,119
science cannot currently explain the

1415
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,480
things that people are seeing in our

1416
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:11,839
skies and not just people

1417
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:14,880
first-hand military aviators there were

1418
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:17,440
80 cases with multiple sensors

1419
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,440
we're not talking about optical

1420
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:21,440
illusions anymore

1421
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:24,880
we never really were but this puts a

1422
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:26,559
nice full stop there

1423
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:30,240
the letter from the secretary of defense

1424
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:33,440
is asking to essentially formalize

1425
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:36,800
a process which is everything

1426
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:39,680
that we have always wanted with this

1427
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:42,319
whether people believe that these are

1428
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:44,640
weird enemy drones or whether they're

1429
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,119
private industry or whether they're ufo

1430
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:49,599
the point is we are now going to have

1431
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:52,000
people looking at this all the time

1432
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:53,839
we're going to have proper data flow for

1433
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,440
this all the time

1434
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:58,240
we might even have site setup where the

1435
00:52:01,990 --> 00:51:59,599
military aren't

1436
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:02,000
that monitors for a baseline of uap

1437
00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:03,520
activity

1438
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,800
if you've been paying attention for the

1439
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,400
last three years some of these things

1440
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,240
will be familiar to you

1441
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:10,319
but for people outside of our community

1442
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,440
this is nothing short of profound

1443
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:15,599
this report may not be what some people

1444
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:17,200
want but it is truly

1445
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:19,520
what we need right now hey ryan it's

1446
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:20,400
chrissy

1447
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:23,680
uh my thoughts on the ufo report i know

1448
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,880
a lot of people

1449
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:26,240
wanted something else from the

1450
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:29,200
government they didn't really want this

1451
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:30,160
narrative

1452
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:33,200
but we should be really thankful that we

1453
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:34,559
did get something

1454
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:37,760
because for years we were just

1455
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:39,200
trying to get the government to

1456
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,880
acknowledge ufos

1457
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:43,040
for the longest period of time so we

1458
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:44,000
have that now

1459
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,359
and it's a step forward in the right

1460
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:47,680
direction and it's step one

1461
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:50,079
at multiple steps but at least we've

1462
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,079
gotten this far

1463
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:54,000
so i'm thankful for that i want to start

1464
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:55,440
off by congratulating

1465
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,480
everyone who assesses that at least some

1466
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:00,160
ufos are beyond next generation

1467
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:02,480
technology of unknown origin

1468
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,520
if through researching and analyzing

1469
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:07,119
all of the information available out

1470
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,200
there on ufos this is the conclusion

1471
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:11,359
that you've come to

1472
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,200
then unquestionably this 180-day

1473
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:17,599
preliminary ufo report is a step in the

1474
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:18,960
right direction

1475
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:21,359
to just give one quick example there is

1476
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:22,240
a segment

1477
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:25,760
in there that conveys that

1478
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:28,880
some uap appear to maneuver

1479
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,559
in in ways that are not easily

1480
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:31,920
explainable

1481
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:34,400
and without discernible means of

1482
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:35,520
propulsion

1483
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:39,119
that is not a trivial statement

1484
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:42,480
and it's even more significant when you

1485
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:43,599
consider

1486
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:46,000
the vast array of sensor collecting

1487
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,040
mechanisms

1488
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:49,359
the most well-funded military in the

1489
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,160
world has

1490
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:52,880
at their disposal they should be able to

1491
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:53,920
easily

1492
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:57,280
detect the propulsion on these

1493
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:00,880
uap from what i understand at least

1494
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:03,920
but moving beyond that

1495
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:06,800
to me this report really represents

1496
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,079
accountability

1497
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,319
for the longest time the us government

1498
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:11,760
really wasn't forced

1499
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:16,880
to talk about ufos report on ufos

1500
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:19,119
and if you're silent about something and

1501
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:21,040
you're not forced to go on the record

1502
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:22,559
then you're not really backed into a

1503
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:25,040
corner are you you're just silent

1504
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,640
no accountability whatsoever but that

1505
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,480
certainly changed

1506
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:30,960
on december 16 2017 with the new york

1507
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:32,480
times article revealing

1508
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:35,760
a tip and so with the

1509
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,880
release of this preliminary 180 day ufo

1510
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:40,160
report

1511
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:44,640
and with talk about public ufo hearings

1512
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,079
which on the day i believe

1513
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:50,160
of the release of this report

1514
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:51,440
representative

1515
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:55,599
andre carson stated again

1516
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:58,160
that he wants there to be public ufo

1517
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,520
hearings

1518
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:01,200
this all seems to be moving in the

1519
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:02,960
direction of greater and greater

1520
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:04,400
accountability

1521
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,319
something that i think is so necessary

1522
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:10,720
because if there is a cover-up or truth

1523
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:11,760
embargo

1524
00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:14,880
as many of us believe it's much harder

1525
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:16,720
to get away with it

1526
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,799
when there's accountability as opposed

1527
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,720
to just remaining silent

1528
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:23,119
about the very subject some of us

1529
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,040
believe is being covered up

1530
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,760
so in this current environment i really

1531
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:30,000
assess that

1532
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,359
if there is a cover-up and i could be

1533
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,119
wrong maybe there's not maybe maybe my

1534
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,400
assessment's wrong which is totally

1535
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:36,480
possible but if there is a cover up

1536
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:39,680
the odds that it can persist much longer

1537
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,440
seems very low to me because it only

1538
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:45,920
really could flourish in an environment

1539
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:46,480
where

1540
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,319
the stigma was at its zenith

1541
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,079
and the government wasn't being forced

1542
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:54,160
to discuss it so

1543
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:57,599
there's clearly limitations to what you

1544
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:58,400
can

1545
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,960
keep from the public when all of a

1546
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,640
sudden the public is

1547
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,680
talking about it on a regular basis and

1548
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,599
journalists are covering it on a regular

1549
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:08,799
basis

1550
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:11,839
and members of our government such as

1551
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,400
our

1552
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:14,480
members of congress are discussing it on

1553
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,000
a regular basis

1554
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:19,440
how can you continue to play stupid

1555
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,200
and act as if you know don't know

1556
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:23,760
anything in that environment i don't

1557
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,640
think it's a plot

1558
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:27,440
it's a plausible scenario so i'm very

1559
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:28,960
optimistic

1560
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:31,920
and this 180-day report we we received

1561
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:33,119
today

1562
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:37,520
is a a manifestation of accountability

1563
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:39,520
and and that accountability is not going

1564
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,559
away

1565
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,400
in fact i think it's only going to

1566
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:44,400
increase and at some point it's going to

1567
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,160
force the united states government

1568
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:48,160
to be more explicit on what they know

1569
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:49,440
about ufos

1570
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:51,280
and i'm looking forward to that day so

1571
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,200
congratulations everybody

1572
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:55,680
it looks like increased transparency on

1573
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:57,280
a subject that we all find

1574
00:57:00,710 --> 00:57:00,480
very important is starting to manifest

1575
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:00,720
in

1576
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:15,520
jesus uh really stuck with me upward and

1577
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:17,599
onward i think that's what we really

1578
00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:19,599
have to keep in mind i did want to go to

1579
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,280
a few comments here

1580
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:23,920
uh one from cairo saying also the fact

1581
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:25,599
that they called it preliminary shows

1582
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:26,160
that

1583
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,839
they expect future reports if they

1584
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,599
wanted to close the case they would call

1585
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:30,799
it the final report

1586
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,960
right or the pentagon would do like they

1587
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:34,559
did i think in 94

1588
00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:37,440
it would be roswell case closed this is

1589
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:38,799
it we're never going to approach this

1590
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:39,280
again

1591
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:42,000
um this is an ongoing effort so that's

1592
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:44,240
cool i i think personally

1593
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:47,280
um and i completely understand

1594
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:49,359
everyone out there who doesn't trust a

1595
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:51,040
word coming from the government

1596
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:54,400
on this issue uh they have covered up a

1597
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,680
lot of stuff in the past

1598
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,200
they have been involved with some pretty

1599
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:59,520
controversial stuff outside of the ufo

1600
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:00,559
field as well

1601
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:03,200
um on the their own american public and

1602
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:03,920
abroad

1603
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:06,839
but look um any time that i think the

1604
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,079
government

1605
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:10,640
approaches this topic we just have to

1606
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:12,079
keep an eye on them

1607
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:14,160
take it with a grain of salt but know

1608
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:15,760
that they're looking into it

1609
00:58:20,309 --> 00:58:18,480
and um hopefully hopefully they'll

1610
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:20,319
release some of the information to us

1611
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:22,720
so yeah yeah i think that's exciting to

1612
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:23,680
remember

1613
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:29,920
uh ethereal says there's a clear call

1614
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:31,359
for ongoing research and

1615
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,160
funding exactly exactly again i think

1616
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:35,599
one of the best things to come out of

1617
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:37,280
all of this was the memo

1618
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:40,400
from the department of defense i uh i i

1619
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:41,520
thought it was awesome

1620
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:44,240
it like while i was kind of let down and

1621
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:46,000
went to bed kind of bummed last night

1622
00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:47,680
like i'm sure a lot of you did

1623
00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:50,000
that memo is actually what kept me kind

1624
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:51,440
of excited about all of this

1625
00:58:55,589 --> 00:58:52,799
and why i decided to do this with you

1626
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:55,599
guys today i think there's hope i really

1627
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,000
do

1628
00:59:02,829 --> 00:58:59,280
um let's see

1629
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,839
that's not a nothing burger ethereal

1630
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:04,559
says

1631
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:09,440
yeah i have to admit although i was

1632
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:10,720
hoping for more i wasn't really

1633
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:12,000
expecting it but i'm still excited to

1634
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:13,760
see where things go from here

1635
00:59:17,430 --> 00:59:16,799
exactly um so where are things going

1636
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:17,440
from here

1637
00:59:21,349 --> 00:59:19,920
uh i think we should keep in mind again

1638
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:21,359
this is a marathon

1639
00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,720
um it's not a race uh those fine words

1640
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:26,000
came from someone you're going to hear

1641
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:28,240
in the summer in the skies bonus episode

1642
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,000
very soon um and disclosure is a process

1643
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:33,680
no matter what you think of disclosure

1644
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:35,040
however you define that

1645
00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:36,480
um whether you think it will come from

1646
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:38,559
the government or not it is a process

1647
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:41,359
it's ongoing and um while we look at

1648
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,400
project blue book

1649
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,640
back in the 50s and 60s and we look at

1650
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:46,319
atip and then we look at what's going on

1651
00:59:50,069 --> 00:59:46,799
now

1652
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:50,079
um it's such a small

1653
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:53,280
sliver in time and i think this topic

1654
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:54,400
deserves

1655
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:56,960
centuries of trying to understand it

1656
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:57,920
centuries

1657
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:01,520
of developing a relationship with it

1658
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,920
uh whatever these phenomena represent

1659
01:00:07,829 --> 01:00:05,839
and uh finally embracing

1660
01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:07,839
and accepting it full force and i think

1661
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:09,359
this is a huge step

1662
01:00:14,789 --> 01:00:12,000
i really do it's acknowledgment by the

1663
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:14,799
us government that this is real and um

1664
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:16,640
we couldn't ask for more than that we

1665
01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:18,799
really couldn't uh maybe we could

1666
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,160
maybe we could i'm sure some of you

1667
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:22,160
think we could but um yeah yeah

1668
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:25,040
uh i want to share with you guys um well

1669
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,240
before i do that

1670
01:00:29,430 --> 01:00:28,400
if i gave you the stream yard link to

1671
01:00:32,150 --> 01:00:29,440
hop in here

1672
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,160
to um to chat with us for a little bit

1673
01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:34,160
please feel free to click on that now

1674
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:35,839
you'll be in the waiting room and

1675
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:37,920
i'll bring you in in just a few moments

1676
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:40,079
uh luis i hope you're out there brother

1677
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:41,200
from the united

1678
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:43,200
unidentified celebrity review if you can

1679
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:44,960
come in if not brother i completely

1680
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,680
understand

1681
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,440
um all of you guys watching this on a

1682
01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:49,200
weekend i truly appreciate you

1683
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,680
even being here um i don't know about

1684
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:53,359
you but it's really nice outside right

1685
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:54,720
now here in new york so

1686
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:56,319
i wouldn't blame you for wanting to be

1687
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,559
outside and looking up in the sky

1688
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,400
but uh thank you thank you to all of you

1689
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:01,839
who have come here

1690
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:05,119
um let's see follow says think they're

1691
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:05,920
hiring

1692
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:09,200
uap researchers i hope so um

1693
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:12,880
my phone hasn't rung yet maybe it will

1694
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:16,400
uh but yeah

1695
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:18,000
lowland says we got the interest from

1696
01:01:20,150 --> 01:01:19,760
mainstream scientists that's a massive

1697
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:20,160
win

1698
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:22,880
exactly i think the next step in all of

1699
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:23,200
this

1700
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:27,359
is um now moving to okay

1701
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:29,119
we're gonna keep looking into it uh

1702
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:30,640
we're gonna give you guys resources

1703
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:33,440
and money to do this um who should we

1704
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:34,240
get

1705
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:38,319
uh and i can think of like 50 scientists

1706
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,319
at the scientific coalition for uap

1707
01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:43,440
studies the scu who would die to work on

1708
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:44,160
this thing

1709
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:46,160
and i think what contributes so much to

1710
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:49,119
the uh the overall assessment of uap

1711
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:51,520
and hopefully explaining away a lot of

1712
01:01:54,549 --> 01:01:52,640
these phenomena

1713
01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:54,559
that's their job to try to understand

1714
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:56,319
what it is so um

1715
01:02:00,870 --> 01:01:59,039
yeah i hope we see a more scientific

1716
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:00,880
approach to all of this moving forward

1717
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:02,880
and they even said they're gonna get ai

1718
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:03,920
involved and

1719
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:06,880
and uh advanced technologies um to look

1720
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:08,880
into this so i think that's pretty cool

1721
01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:11,760
um so one more time if i give you the

1722
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:13,119
link feel free to hop

1723
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:17,440
in uh nick is saying what link um that i

1724
01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:19,119
gave that to a couple people

1725
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,280
i might throw it in here so you guys can

1726
01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:23,760
um hop in with me blind uh

1727
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:26,960
please be nice please behave uh don't

1728
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:27,920
troll me

1729
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:30,000
and um we'll all get along but yeah i

1730
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:31,280
would love to hear what you guys think

1731
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,839
so

1732
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:34,079
uh if we don't have anyone else pop in i

1733
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:35,200
will definitely

1734
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:37,280
send the link out to all of you guys

1735
01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:38,480
send your resume kid

1736
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:41,920
my dad said oh

1737
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:45,440
man oh avi loeb the scientist

1738
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:48,000
said he would love to head the

1739
01:02:52,390 --> 01:02:48,960
scientific

1740
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:52,400
branch or whatever of this uap thing so

1741
01:02:55,950 --> 01:02:54,160
that's awesome i think he would make a

1742
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:55,960
really good um

1743
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:58,400
imaginative person to really look into

1744
01:03:01,990 --> 01:02:59,760
this from uh

1745
01:03:02,950 --> 01:03:02,000
rebellious size from what we know of the

1746
01:03:04,870 --> 01:03:02,960
mainstream

1747
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:04,880
scientific community so yeah yeah i

1748
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:06,160
think that's pretty cool

1749
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,599
um let me move to another video for you

1750
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:10,880
guys here shortly

1751
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:12,559
so i talked to john greenwald of the

1752
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:14,160
black vault this morning

1753
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,760
and um he allowed me to share

1754
01:03:21,270 --> 01:03:19,760
these last final moments of a stream

1755
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:21,280
that he did last night

1756
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:23,280
um he was sorry he couldn't make it live

1757
01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:25,039
but he said please feel free to share

1758
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,799
this so i'm going to play that

1759
01:03:30,069 --> 01:03:28,559
video message for you guys right now

1760
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:30,079
from john greenwald

1761
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,799
and uh he sends his best to everyone and

1762
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:33,839
uh

1763
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:36,000
you know john's a skeptical guy as he

1764
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:37,359
should be he's been looking into this

1765
01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:38,319
forever

1766
01:03:42,870 --> 01:03:40,160
and um if you're not familiar with his

1767
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:42,880
work head on over to theblackvault.com

1768
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:45,280
or subscribe to his youtube channel the

1769
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:47,440
black vault please go do that right now

1770
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:49,839
um he's doing excellent work over there

1771
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:51,359
but uh before we do anything let me

1772
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:52,559
share this video

1773
01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:54,480
with you guys from john about his

1774
01:03:58,630 --> 01:03:56,880
thoughts on the report and um

1775
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:58,640
what we should think of about moving

1776
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:01,119
forward but one thing that i will say

1777
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:04,000
and what i uh even tweeted out today for

1778
01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:05,119
those who were

1779
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:06,559
watching with me and we were all

1780
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:09,039
frantically pressing refresh on the

1781
01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:12,559
dni's website and really anticipating

1782
01:04:17,589 --> 01:04:14,720
this together

1783
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:17,599
is that this is not the end right this

1784
01:04:20,870 --> 01:04:18,400
this is not

1785
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:20,880
regardless of this being the letdown uh

1786
01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:22,240
that it might be to you

1787
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:24,319
or maybe it's encouraging to you maybe

1788
01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:26,160
this is more than you thought

1789
01:04:30,789 --> 01:04:29,200
it doesn't matter what you think this is

1790
01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:30,799
far from the end

1791
01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:33,520
not only for me on a personal level i've

1792
01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:35,920
been doing this for 25 years pursuing

1793
01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:38,000
ufo uap information with the government

1794
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:39,599
so i'm not going to stop now

1795
01:04:44,470 --> 01:04:41,839
but i hope it motivates all of you as

1796
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,480
well because even though this report

1797
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:46,880
i can almost bet for all of you didn't

1798
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:48,880
have everything that you wanted

1799
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:51,599
in it at least this shows us that there

1800
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:52,000
is

1801
01:04:58,390 --> 01:04:56,160
taken seriously

1802
01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:58,400
that it is being acknowledged that it is

1803
01:05:03,109 --> 01:05:00,480
being essentially

1804
01:05:05,109 --> 01:05:03,119
looked at as a potential threat and as

1805
01:05:06,549 --> 01:05:05,119
much as some of you do not like that

1806
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:06,559
word

1807
01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:09,280
that will pave the way for them meaning

1808
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:10,480
the senate

1809
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:13,760
to look at this that is not exciting or

1810
01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:14,880
extraordinary by

1811
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:18,000
itself but that is the root

1812
01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:20,480
because once additional funding albeit

1813
01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:22,720
maybe a small amount

1814
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:25,359
that additional funding goes in and that

1815
01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:27,760
expansion of the data happens

1816
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:30,640
and they expanded to commercial aviation

1817
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:31,440
pilots

1818
01:05:34,549 --> 01:05:33,760
they expanded to just the joe schmoes of

1819
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:34,559
the world

1820
01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:37,200
that are seeing ufos to essentially then

1821
01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:38,240
really

1822
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:40,960
tackle this from a scientific standpoint

1823
01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:42,160
that

1824
01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:45,440
is what we should all praise i'm mad too

1825
01:05:49,190 --> 01:05:46,480
we didn't get what we

1826
01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:49,200
really truly wanted but if this is the

1827
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:49,920
route

1828
01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:52,559
to potentially a bigger program that

1829
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:53,039
will

1830
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:56,400
then pave that way for a bigger data set

1831
01:06:01,510 --> 01:05:58,160
for them to call on

1832
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:01,520
hopefully we the people will have access

1833
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,400
to that

1834
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:04,640
but at least those are baby steps

1835
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:06,000
forward

1836
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:15,270
nice so i want to thank john once again

1837
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:16,400
for letting me

1838
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:19,359
play that for you guys um if he's

1839
01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,160
excited

1840
01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:22,480
about moving forward with this uh i

1841
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:23,920
don't know how anyone couldn't be

1842
01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:25,760
because john is the most skeptical

1843
01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:28,559
about all of this um and he's excited

1844
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:30,319
about what comes next and i know someone

1845
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:31,039
else

1846
01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:33,760
who's excited about what comes next he

1847
01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:34,319
is

1848
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:37,599
the host of the unidentified celebrity

1849
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:39,760
review and he is joining us right now so

1850
01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:41,440
i'm going to bring him in

1851
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:45,440
yo what's up ryan how you doing buddy

1852
01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:48,160
good good this is so impromptu i wish i

1853
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:51,839
had the production value you have my man

1854
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:53,599
i don't know how you guys do it you got

1855
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:55,359
things popping up on the screen you got

1856
01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:57,760
share streams going you got it's crazy i

1857
01:07:01,029 --> 01:06:59,039
can't believe the amazing work

1858
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:01,039
it's over there it's all rather it's all

1859
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,160
rather rather

1860
01:07:05,670 --> 01:07:04,079
rather pulls up all that stuff as we

1861
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:05,680
talk yeah

1862
01:07:09,510 --> 01:07:07,280
but uh but i appreciate it man thanks

1863
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:09,520
for having me thank you for coming

1864
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:10,960
i really appreciate it i know it's a

1865
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:13,440
saturday a lot of no this is great i was

1866
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,720
gonna try i was thinking about doing

1867
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:15,839
something on saturday anyway

1868
01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:16,960
just because there's so much to talk

1869
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:19,599
about man there's no to digest here's

1870
01:07:22,710 --> 01:07:20,640
the thing that

1871
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:22,720
it kind of just hit me today and we

1872
01:07:25,109 --> 01:07:23,760
really

1873
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:25,119
rather actually touched on this on a

1874
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,200
video that he did post star show

1875
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:30,240
um this is a preliminary report

1876
01:07:33,990 --> 01:07:33,520
right this is a preliminary report which

1877
01:07:37,270 --> 01:07:34,000
means

1878
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:37,280
we're going to get another report

1879
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:40,240
that's a good thing that's a good thing

1880
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:41,200
i

1881
01:07:49,750 --> 01:07:47,200
congress was

1882
01:07:50,549 --> 01:07:49,760
i'd like to see a preliminary report on

1883
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,559
the date

1884
01:07:55,349 --> 01:07:52,319
and then give you guys an extension of

1885
01:07:57,990 --> 01:07:55,359
180 days to provide a better report

1886
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:58,000
yeah looks like that's what we might get

1887
01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,920
i mean i can tell you this

1888
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:01,599
like you just said earlier i mean i just

1889
01:08:04,230 --> 01:08:03,680
heard you say it or somebody in your

1890
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,240
comments

1891
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,799
like if this was a final report it would

1892
01:08:10,789 --> 01:08:08,400
say final report

1893
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,799
like if they wanted to nip this issue in

1894
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:12,160
the bud they could have

1895
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:14,400
done it right here this was the golden

1896
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:16,080
opportunity to do it

1897
01:08:20,070 --> 01:08:18,080
and never have anybody talk about this

1898
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:20,080
again never have any media i mean the

1899
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,679
media inquiries are still going

1900
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:23,520
people are still talking about it yeah

1901
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:25,920
um and it's because

1902
01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:28,239
they didn't finalize anything you know

1903
01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:30,159
they basically said that these objects

1904
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,839
are real out of all of these objects

1905
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:33,199
only one they could

1906
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:35,199
they could actually figure out one of

1907
01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:36,319
them that's

1908
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,040
crazy that's pretty wild that's a that's

1909
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:40,880
a big admission but i mean but then he

1910
01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:43,199
had some of them were balloons

1911
01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:45,040
were probably chinese drones some of

1912
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:47,199
them were probably antarctican drones

1913
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:50,880
and and you know and and that's okay

1914
01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:52,719
because we already knew that we knew

1915
01:08:57,229 --> 01:08:53,920
that coming into this

1916
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:57,239
so exactly you know if this if this

1917
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:01,600
preliminary report disappoints you

1918
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:03,359
you either a weren't listening to what

1919
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:05,679
was being said for the last six

1920
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:08,960
months because nobody on

1921
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,520
coming from an intelligence standpoint

1922
01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:13,359
not louis lozano not christopher mellon

1923
01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:14,719
not sean cahill

1924
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:17,359
nobody nobody from that end of this

1925
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:18,480
discussion

1926
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:20,880
was setting up the expectation of

1927
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:22,080
metamaterials

1928
01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:24,960
no one said bodies no one said crafts no

1929
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:25,520
one said

1930
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,279
so if

1931
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:31,279
that's what you were expecting in this

1932
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:32,319
report

1933
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:36,000
that's on you that's not you like i hate

1934
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:38,000
to break it to you that's on you man

1935
01:09:42,630 --> 01:09:39,440
like we have been saying

1936
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:42,640
for months lower your expectations

1937
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:45,759
and so has so has the pentagon and so

1938
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:48,000
has luis elizondo luis elizondo

1939
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:49,600
specifically has said it

1940
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:53,040
over and over and over he's a man he he

1941
01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:55,920
he set the expectation of expected delay

1942
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:57,199
expect a delay

1943
01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:59,920
um like and i think this is exactly what

1944
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:01,280
it is this is a delay

1945
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:04,400
because we got a preliminary report um

1946
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:05,760
but they didn't give us a promise of

1947
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:07,040
when we're going to get the rest of the

1948
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:07,840
report

1949
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:10,880
um but then he also realized there's

1950
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:13,440
70 something pages that we're not privy

1951
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:14,400
to

1952
01:10:18,070 --> 01:10:17,120
and congress is looking at over the

1953
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:18,080
weekend

1954
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:21,360
i have a feeling either a some of this

1955
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:22,800
is gonna leak

1956
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:25,679
or be congress might start declassifying

1957
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:26,719
some of this report

1958
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:28,719
which would be wonderful and if that's

1959
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:30,080
something you want

1960
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:32,400
call your congressman and ask them to

1961
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,679
declassify

1962
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:35,520
aspects of the report that they think

1963
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:36,960
should be declassified

1964
01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:39,360
encourage them to do so i mean right now

1965
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,159
we've got a

1966
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,800
sick golden opportunity to make some

1967
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:44,880
phone calls and really

1968
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,840
and really possibly do some of this work

1969
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:49,600
ourselves to uncover some of the rest of

1970
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,000
the 78 pages or however many pages are

1971
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:54,560
left well let me ask you that do you

1972
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,000
think and we know

1973
01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:58,320
um again no matter your thoughts on the

1974
01:11:04,630 --> 01:11:01,280
guy jeremy corbell is a tenacious man

1975
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:04,640
and he said um i'm gonna drop something

1976
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:05,920
in reaction to this

1977
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:07,520
and luis elizondo has said the same

1978
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,679
thing we have a contingency

1979
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:11,760
if this report is as mundane as could be

1980
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:13,199
which it kind of was

1981
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:14,880
um there again we went through all the

1982
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,480
good stuff from it but um

1983
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:17,679
what do you think do you think we're

1984
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:19,920
gonna see any leaks or any

1985
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:22,800
kind of anonymous statements being made

1986
01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:23,840
moving forward

1987
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:27,199
photos videos yes uh yes all of that

1988
01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:29,840
yes yes because the conversation's not

1989
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:31,040
going backwards

1990
01:11:37,830 --> 01:11:34,320
forward and

1991
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:37,840
forward means more data more info more

1992
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:39,760
more more more more of everything more

1993
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:41,600
transparency more discussion

1994
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:44,080
um you know i can't wait to see what i

1995
01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:44,880
mean look i

1996
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:46,960
i i don't think this report was as

1997
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:49,760
mundane as people are painting it to be

1998
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:53,040
i think again we have to keep in mind

1999
01:11:59,430 --> 01:11:56,320
99 of the population have

2000
01:12:02,470 --> 01:11:59,440
has no idea that these objects

2001
01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:02,480
are real they're tangible they're craft

2002
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:04,960
they're solid they're intelligently

2003
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,159
controlled

2004
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:08,960
these are just i can't i don't want to

2005
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:09,520
call them

2006
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,159
stone cold hard facts but they're as

2007
01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:14,320
close to a fact as you can get

2008
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:18,480
um and that conversation that genie is

2009
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,840
not going back in the bottle

2010
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:21,440
we're gonna get more i can't wait to see

2011
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:23,120
what jimmy corbell comes out with

2012
01:12:26,550 --> 01:12:25,520
and i think this report validates all

2013
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:26,560
the work

2014
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:28,960
that corbell that george knapp that

2015
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:29,920
richard dolan

2016
01:12:33,110 --> 01:12:31,520
all of these guys you know john

2017
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:33,120
greenwald that have been doing

2018
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:35,760
you know uh you your boss tim mcmillan

2019
01:12:39,189 --> 01:12:36,159
like

2020
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:39,199
all of these guys are doing killer

2021
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:42,480
killer investigate yourself included in

2022
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,800
insanely great investigative work it's

2023
01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:46,560
not gonna stop

2024
01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:50,800
it's gonna get more more veracity to it

2025
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:52,400
because people now know

2026
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,120
they're not chasing [\h__\h] anymore

2027
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:57,520
they're chasing a legitimate

2028
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:01,040
thing um and i i do

2029
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:04,480
i'm excited i gotta tell you i am too

2030
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:07,679
again that that memo actually from uh

2031
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:10,960
defense was actually what like

2032
01:13:14,149 --> 01:13:13,520
kept me you know alive this morning i

2033
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,159
was

2034
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:16,640
like oh man oh yeah have you read that

2035
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:17,199
that

2036
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:23,679
it's fire man it's like they were like

2037
01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:26,640
yo pentagon screwed up like they really

2038
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:27,520
screwed up

2039
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:30,320
so we'll we'll take it from here which i

2040
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:31,840
thought was pretty interesting well i

2041
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:32,159
just

2042
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:35,679
love this i love the they have a plan

2043
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,080
there's a plan okay and the first thing

2044
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:39,840
that the plan should include is to

2045
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:41,440
establish procedures

2046
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:44,400
to synchronize collection yeah that

2047
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,159
sounds like an office to me

2048
01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:48,239
that sounds like a that sounds like a

2049
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:49,920
permanent office to me

2050
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:52,800
reporting an analysis of the uap problem

2051
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:53,280
set

2052
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:55,440
and to establish recommendations for

2053
01:14:03,430 --> 01:14:00,239
securing military tested training ranges

2054
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:03,440
boom i mean that's

2055
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:07,120
if we get a uap

2056
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:10,560
task force office that is funded better

2057
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:12,000
than atip

2058
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:15,280
that provides a report every year um

2059
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:17,520
and hopefully those unclassified pages

2060
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:20,400
get longer and longer and longer

2061
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,960
that's a wonderful progression in this

2062
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:23,840
discussion

2063
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:26,159
if the if the depart if the pentagon and

2064
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:27,120
the deputy

2065
01:14:32,709 --> 01:14:30,400
deputy secretary of defense think that

2066
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:32,719
it's a good idea to set up an office to

2067
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:34,880
start collecting this data

2068
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:37,120
and let's say they quadrupled the budget

2069
01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:38,480
of the a-tip program

2070
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:40,239
that's still less than 100 million

2071
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:42,320
dollars i mean that's something that

2072
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:44,320
they don't even have to ask congress for

2073
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:45,360
they could allocate

2074
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,840
funds from other projects other things

2075
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:49,840
to make that budget up

2076
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:53,760
real quick real quick and

2077
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:56,080
and i think i think that's what we're

2078
01:14:59,430 --> 01:14:57,440
gonna i think this is what

2079
01:15:00,790 --> 01:14:59,440
is happening personally yeah i think

2080
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:00,800
they're gonna start setting up an office

2081
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:01,840
they're gonna start setting up a

2082
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:03,199
collection agency

2083
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:05,280
and hopefully now that the thing that we

2084
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:07,040
really need to be vigilant of is we got

2085
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:07,840
to make sure that

2086
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:11,040
if they do that that we really hold that

2087
01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:12,320
task force to fire

2088
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:14,640
and that we really make sure congress

2089
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:16,640
and our senators are putting the proper

2090
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:18,719
amount of pressure in the right places

2091
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:21,920
to make sure that that data gets to us

2092
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:25,199
on some level um yeah and i think it's

2093
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:26,000
coming man

2094
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:27,679
i think it's coming it's gonna be i hope

2095
01:15:32,229 --> 01:15:30,239
so maybe two well

2096
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:32,239
which i'm willing to wait for man dude

2097
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:33,440
we've waited this long

2098
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:35,840
what's another year what's another year

2099
01:15:41,189 --> 01:15:37,280
that's the whole thing man

2100
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:41,199
we really once like

2101
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:44,000
another 180 days and i get more data

2102
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:45,040
awesome

2103
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:49,199
this i mean

2104
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:51,360
everyone wanted to know what it would

2105
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:53,280
say about roswell what it would say

2106
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:54,320
about

2107
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:57,040
rendelsham and everything and i mean

2108
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:57,679
again we

2109
01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:59,840
knew that this was going to be like from

2110
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,360
2004

2111
01:16:04,870 --> 01:16:03,280
onwards so i don't know why people were

2112
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:04,880
thinking that though yeah they they

2113
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:06,640
weren't going to give us all the files

2114
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:10,320
on anything did ever say roswell did

2115
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:11,280
christopher mellon

2116
01:16:15,990 --> 01:16:14,159
ever say rendlesham they never said that

2117
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,000
so if you thought that that information

2118
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:18,080
was going to be in this report again

2119
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:21,040
it's on you it's on you well here's the

2120
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:21,679
thing too

2121
01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:24,719
that that data from those events

2122
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:26,800
should be eventually implemented into

2123
01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:29,040
whatever this overall program ends up

2124
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:29,600
being

2125
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:31,600
obviously not only the data from

2126
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:32,640
military

2127
01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:35,280
events but civilians as well and that

2128
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:37,199
was another exciting thing i thought i

2129
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:38,719
read in there as well maybe i read it

2130
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:40,400
wrong but it sounded like there's a

2131
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:41,920
possibility they could start looking

2132
01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:42,640
into

2133
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:45,920
civilian ufo reports also um

2134
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:48,159
maybe i'm wrong and uh maybe i'm a

2135
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:49,760
little too hopeful but um

2136
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:52,000
yeah that data from people outside of

2137
01:16:57,189 --> 01:16:54,080
the government outside of the military

2138
01:16:58,870 --> 01:16:57,199
needs to be used somehow if we're really

2139
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:58,880
going to try it truly understand these

2140
01:17:01,990 --> 01:17:00,560
things so um

2141
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:02,000
you know what i mean that's got to be

2142
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:03,840
part of the budget it's got to be part

2143
01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:05,679
of their task force budget

2144
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:08,719
to go out and have these conversations

2145
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:10,480
with civilian witnesses

2146
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:13,840
um for sure for sure uh

2147
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,920
and i think there's also you know we

2148
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,600
also

2149
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:19,760
like it's okay to start asking for our

2150
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:21,520
government

2151
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:23,920
for grants to start looking at this

2152
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:24,800
ourselves

2153
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,400
like maybe the government doesn't want

2154
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,320
to handle the the

2155
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:30,960
um civilian aspect of it but maybe

2156
01:17:34,709 --> 01:17:33,280
harvard does or maybe mit does or maybe

2157
01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:34,719
the scu does

2158
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:37,280
um you know these are great institutions

2159
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:38,480
that could use the money

2160
01:17:42,310 --> 01:17:41,040
use the funds and let them use those

2161
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:42,320
funds to really

2162
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:45,040
put a study and put the right the right

2163
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:46,640
tools in place to look at

2164
01:17:49,990 --> 01:17:48,239
especially the civilian side of things

2165
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:50,000
because i think you're right i think

2166
01:17:53,910 --> 01:17:53,440
you know the you know after meeting guys

2167
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:53,920
like you

2168
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:55,280
and and really having a whole bunch of

2169
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,280
conversations i've shifted my thought

2170
01:18:01,590 --> 01:18:00,000
process on this aspect of things like

2171
01:18:03,110 --> 01:18:01,600
eventually we're going to have to start

2172
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,120
acknowledging

2173
01:18:06,709 --> 01:18:06,000
the abduction part of this the ali if

2174
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:06,719
you want to call it

2175
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:08,560
alien part of this whatever you want to

2176
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:11,360
call it because there is a huge subsect

2177
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:12,000
of people

2178
01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:15,120
that have been traumatized

2179
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:17,679
by by something and it needs to be

2180
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:19,440
recorded it needs to be looked at it

2181
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:21,520
needs to be taken seriously

2182
01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:24,640
um and and

2183
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:26,960
we also need to include them in the

2184
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:28,239
conversation

2185
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:30,159
and i i could i could feel the

2186
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:31,360
frustration

2187
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:33,040
from and that's a big part of this

2188
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,640
community is

2189
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,719
where where's the information that tells

2190
01:18:41,590 --> 01:18:38,239
me my experiences are

2191
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:41,600
valid and i that that's got to be

2192
01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:44,640
frustrating as hell to get not get any

2193
01:18:49,990 --> 01:18:48,000
shred of that data and i can understand

2194
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:50,000
the frustration but i would implore you

2195
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:52,320
to do is be patient the conversation is

2196
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:52,960
coming

2197
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:55,280
we just need the conversation to shift

2198
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:56,480
in the normal

2199
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,880
living room to hey mom you know these

2200
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:00,719
ufos are real

2201
01:19:06,070 --> 01:19:03,920
yeah actually that is true son

2202
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:06,080
you know like you know this needs this

2203
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:08,000
conversation needs to be had

2204
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:10,320
in a science classroom you know a

2205
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:12,480
professor i heard about these ufos can

2206
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:13,840
we talk about this

2207
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:17,440
well yes actually we can now you know um

2208
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:19,600
so once the conversation starts being

2209
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:20,960
had i think like that

2210
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,840
at the water cooler in schools between

2211
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:25,520
families

2212
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:27,760
and it's happening on a big level and

2213
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:29,199
you'll know because people are gonna

2214
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:30,320
start calling they're gonna

2215
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:32,480
start asking for more data and more

2216
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:33,600
transparency

2217
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,280
and more information like what do i need

2218
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:37,360
to know to keep my family safe from this

2219
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:40,560
you know yeah things like that um and

2220
01:19:44,390 --> 01:19:43,360
the conversation is coming it's just

2221
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:44,400
it's not time

2222
01:19:47,669 --> 01:19:46,080
i know that's not something that people

2223
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:47,679
want to hear but it's just not

2224
01:19:51,030 --> 01:19:50,159
time yet because people are going to

2225
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:51,040
have a really

2226
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:53,360
really really difficult time

2227
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:54,560
understanding

2228
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:57,280
that aspect of it they really are

2229
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:58,159
absolutely

2230
01:20:02,630 --> 01:20:01,440
yeah well and uh well that's so true man

2231
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:02,640
and i brought it up earlier

2232
01:20:05,830 --> 01:20:04,400
the more we zoom out the more we can see

2233
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:05,840
the full picture of

2234
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:09,120
what ufos represent why we um

2235
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:11,679
why it's happening is another one of the

2236
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:12,639
big questions

2237
01:20:17,750 --> 01:20:15,679
so while we're living in 2021 right now

2238
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:17,760
zoomed in on our own personal lives

2239
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:19,360
imagine in a hundred years

2240
01:20:22,870 --> 01:20:21,600
where this topic will be and i think

2241
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:22,880
this will be

2242
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:26,639
one of the you know staple moments in

2243
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:27,600
history

2244
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:31,040
where finally the government said

2245
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:34,000
it's real yeah we can't explain it we

2246
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,520
should probably look more into it

2247
01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:37,199
and i think that's what's pretty cool so

2248
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:39,360
i want to ask you this um

2249
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:42,000
what was the most surprising thing for

2250
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:43,679
you out of this report

2251
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:46,960
and um what was i guess uh the most

2252
01:20:50,229 --> 01:20:48,880
disheartening thing let's go with the

2253
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:50,239
bad first and then

2254
01:20:56,149 --> 01:20:53,280
what you really like from it i honestly

2255
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:56,159
i didn't find it this hard i had my

2256
01:21:01,510 --> 01:20:58,880
expectations so low

2257
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:01,520
that i didn't find any part of this

2258
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:04,320
disappointing i found it actually

2259
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:08,239
i thought we were gonna get less so

2260
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:10,159
there was no disappointment for me at

2261
01:21:13,750 --> 01:21:11,520
all i think

2262
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:13,760
uh from a dis disappointment standpoint

2263
01:21:15,910 --> 01:21:15,600
like i said my expectations were so low

2264
01:21:17,350 --> 01:21:15,920
that

2265
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:17,360
anything they would have come out with i

2266
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:19,040
would have been pretty pleased but i

2267
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,560
felt like they went above and beyond the

2268
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:22,560
thing that really surprised me that i

2269
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:25,280
really got a kick out of was the

2270
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:26,000
pentagon

2271
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:29,040
saying we need a budget and

2272
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:30,880
them saying we need a budget to me

2273
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:33,280
wasn't oh we're trying to get more money

2274
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:35,040
for a defense program or we're trying to

2275
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:36,639
get more money for this

2276
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:38,239
like the bottom line is the military

2277
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:39,760
just had the largest increase in

2278
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,040
military spending

2279
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:43,199
ever it just got approved they didn't

2280
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:45,040
need a ufo story to get that approval

2281
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:46,000
they would that was

2282
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,920
approved that was getting approved with

2283
01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:49,280
or without this story

2284
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:51,040
so the idea that the pentagon is

2285
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:52,719
literally begging

2286
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:54,400
parts of the pentagon are literally

2287
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:56,320
begging their bosses give us the

2288
01:22:00,390 --> 01:21:57,199
resources

2289
01:22:01,830 --> 01:22:00,400
please let us study this that's what i

2290
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:01,840
gather from it is like

2291
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:04,880
this is an issue this is a problem

2292
01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:07,120
um and and the problem is is that we've

2293
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:09,120
got all of these military personnel

2294
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:12,320
all of these pilots who who are being

2295
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:15,360
thrown under the bus for decades

2296
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,520
we need a way for them to report this

2297
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:19,120
safely and openly

2298
01:22:22,830 --> 01:22:21,040
and honestly and we need to start

2299
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:22,840
cataloging and

2300
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,840
categorizing these objects and we need

2301
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:28,000
to start eliminating what's terrestrial

2302
01:22:33,270 --> 01:22:28,719
versus

2303
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:33,280
fit in those two boxes

2304
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:36,480
and um and i think them asking

2305
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:39,520
for more is awesome

2306
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:43,920
because again like all you got to do

2307
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,840
i'm trying to remember the cost of a

2308
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:47,440
scud missile

2309
01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:50,639
it's somewhere in the i don't you know

2310
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:53,360
i i i want to say almost million dollar

2311
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:53,840
range

2312
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:56,880
you know just take a hundred scud

2313
01:23:02,870 --> 01:22:58,560
missiles out of the budget

2314
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:02,880
and throw that into this uaptf

2315
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:06,239
and let's really start looking at this

2316
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:09,760
um i think i think it's gonna happen man

2317
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:12,239
i mean you've got i mean yesterday marco

2318
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:13,040
rubio was

2319
01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:16,159
said exactly that like we've got pilots

2320
01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:19,760
and um you know and

2321
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:23,120
army and navy and air force personnel

2322
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,840
men and women who are seeing strange

2323
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:28,080
things and they're not reporting them

2324
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:31,600
because of what stigma like are we

2325
01:23:36,629 --> 01:23:35,600
really going to leave ourselves open to

2326
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:36,639
a possible

2327
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:40,800
nuclear chemical attack by a drone swarm

2328
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:43,679
because we didn't want to put a plan in

2329
01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:44,719
place to report

2330
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:48,320
unidentified aerial phenomena really

2331
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:51,280
yeah so i think that's it's the stigma

2332
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:51,840
is

2333
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:55,040
dying and that's a good thing it's i

2334
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:58,080
like i could the pentagon to me

2335
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:00,800
seems like it's got its foot on the neck

2336
01:24:04,790 --> 01:24:02,480
of stigma and it's just

2337
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:04,800
pressing down and we need to destroy it

2338
01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:05,679
like this is

2339
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,760
this is this is the beginning of it

2340
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:09,199
think of this i always

2341
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:11,840
compare this to the medical marijuana

2342
01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:12,880
discussion

2343
01:24:21,350 --> 01:24:17,840
in 1996 1997 california

2344
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:21,360
legalized the record the medical use of

2345
01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:23,520
marijuana

2346
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:27,920
think of this report as 1996

2347
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:31,600
and by the year 2041

2348
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:34,239
this is going to be a legalized issue in

2349
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:35,440
every state

2350
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,880
and that's where marijuana is it's

2351
01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,880
recreational it's medical

2352
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,880
all throughout the country it's it's a

2353
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:42,880
conversation that any senator can have

2354
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:43,440
now

2355
01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:46,560
any congressman will touch but in 1996

2356
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:48,880
there was nobody there was nobody

2357
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:50,480
talking about this there was nobody

2358
01:24:53,910 --> 01:24:52,080
advocating for it except for

2359
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,920
a handful of congressmen and that's

2360
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:55,440
exactly what you see now

2361
01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:58,480
and just as medical marijuana didn't go

2362
01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:00,080
away it only got bigger

2363
01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:02,080
this conversation's not going to go away

2364
01:25:07,189 --> 01:25:04,000
it's only going to get bigger

2365
01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:07,199
um because especially from a network

2366
01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:08,080
standpoint

2367
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:11,120
i mean look at cbs they're they're

2368
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,800
the the numbers they got on that 60

2369
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:16,159
minutes episode with

2370
01:25:20,709 --> 01:25:19,440
fravor and dietrich has more hits and

2371
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:20,719
more attention

2372
01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:23,280
than any all of their videos on that

2373
01:25:28,550 --> 01:25:25,280
youtube channel combined

2374
01:25:31,270 --> 01:25:28,560
yeah well and that's another two days

2375
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:31,280
right and i really want to commend um

2376
01:25:35,189 --> 01:25:33,440
alex dietrich for finally coming forward

2377
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:35,199
i know a lot of it had to do with

2378
01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,679
backing up fravor like yeah they flew in

2379
01:25:42,070 --> 01:25:39,440
planes together like they

2380
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:42,080
they are bonded for life in many ways

2381
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,120
and um

2382
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:45,120
she finally was like i got to do this i

2383
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:46,320
got to do it for him

2384
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:49,600
and um also because she agrees

2385
01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:51,840
that what she experienced that day in

2386
01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:53,199
2004

2387
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:55,679
uh during the nimitz event uh was

2388
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:56,880
extremely troubling

2389
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:59,760
scary and dangerous and uh she thinks

2390
01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:00,320
that

2391
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:02,000
by not reporting it because of the

2392
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:03,600
stigma and ridicule

2393
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:06,560
it could have been disastrous so i think

2394
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:07,360
um

2395
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,000
she and fravor would agree that we need

2396
01:26:14,550 --> 01:26:12,000
to do this we have to start

2397
01:26:16,070 --> 01:26:14,560
talking about this and look even before

2398
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:16,080
all of this the task force and

2399
01:26:18,709 --> 01:26:16,639
everything

2400
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:18,719
the navy was like we're gonna come up

2401
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:20,960
with a reporting protocol for this

2402
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:23,360
which i thought was so commendable of

2403
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:25,440
them to do that so early on

2404
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:27,840
um and yeah who knows where it's going

2405
01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:29,679
to go from there but um

2406
01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:31,760
yeah man um how long do you have i don't

2407
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:33,520
want to keep you too dude i got all day

2408
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:35,760
i just got done i just got done eating

2409
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:37,120
my breakfast we're good

2410
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:39,520
um what'd you have oh i we went to a

2411
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:41,440
little cuban cafe on sunset

2412
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:43,280
um yeah it was really good so i had like

2413
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:45,440
a cuban sandwich for breakfast

2414
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:49,520
um uh that was the burning question in

2415
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:50,000
the chat

2416
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:52,719
yeah everybody was dying to know um yeah

2417
01:26:56,390 --> 01:26:53,280
dude i

2418
01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:57,910
i kind of lost my train of thought but

2419
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:59,840
yeah i i what were we talking about what

2420
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,320
did you

2421
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:02,880
not find no no we were talking about

2422
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:04,400
dietrich and

2423
01:27:09,189 --> 01:27:08,560
um i think dietrich especially she hates

2424
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:09,199
this

2425
01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:12,960
did i mean like she said it

2426
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:14,480
in her interview with mick west she's

2427
01:27:20,470 --> 01:27:16,239
like you know

2428
01:27:24,070 --> 01:27:20,480
like um i'm i'm doing this because

2429
01:27:26,629 --> 01:27:24,080
i'm trying to help destroy the stigma

2430
01:27:27,350 --> 01:27:26,639
you know the stigma and the taboo so

2431
01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:27,360
that way

2432
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:31,280
my fellow air force my fellow pilots

2433
01:27:37,270 --> 01:27:34,480
and uh and and brothers at arms

2434
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:37,280
they can report these things without

2435
01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:39,600
feeling

2436
01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:41,760
scared you know she was she said if she

2437
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,520
was flying out there by herself she

2438
01:27:46,870 --> 01:27:45,280
would not have reported it

2439
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:46,880
and that's a problem like that's an

2440
01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:48,560
issue you know because she would have

2441
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:50,159
been too scared to bring it up

2442
01:27:54,629 --> 01:27:52,960
because she knows everybody was gonna do

2443
01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:54,639
exactly what they did which was bust

2444
01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:56,320
their chops make fun of them for three

2445
01:27:59,830 --> 01:27:57,440
or four days

2446
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:59,840
and and then it was like business as

2447
01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:01,120
usual

2448
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:05,040
so you know i think you look also keep

2449
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:06,560
this in mind man

2450
01:28:10,870 --> 01:28:09,360
there's still two other pilots we

2451
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:10,880
haven't heard from

2452
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,080
in that in those cockpits two so

2453
01:28:17,830 --> 01:28:16,080
they're probably still active they're

2454
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:17,840
probably still flying

2455
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:21,280
um we're gonna hear from them we are

2456
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:24,000
they're gonna they're without a doubt

2457
01:28:26,550 --> 01:28:24,960
without a doubt

2458
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:26,560
there's no doubt in my mind we're gonna

2459
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:28,480
hear from them and it's because

2460
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,760
of that brotherhood you know i i mean

2461
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:33,600
fravor was sitting in the wind

2462
01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:36,719
flapping like a broken flag for almost

2463
01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:37,760
four years

2464
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:39,920
and then finally dietrich was able to

2465
01:28:42,629 --> 01:28:40,880
come out because she

2466
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:42,639
she finished her service she finished

2467
01:28:46,390 --> 01:28:44,639
her duty and now she can come out and

2468
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:46,400
publicly back her brother

2469
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:48,639
and so that's what she's doing and i

2470
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:50,000
promise you

2471
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:52,639
the other wizzo the other pilot they're

2472
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:53,840
gonna come out

2473
01:28:56,870 --> 01:28:56,560
they're gonna they're gonna you know

2474
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:56,880
really

2475
01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:59,600
for sure oh for sure for sure we just

2476
01:29:02,950 --> 01:29:01,120
have to be patient you know remember

2477
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:02,960
like it took us four years to meet alec

2478
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:03,840
dietrich

2479
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:06,639
exactly yeah so it could take can i talk

2480
01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:07,199
to you

2481
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:10,159
meet those other pilots exactly yep and

2482
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:12,639
even you know the chief radar operator

2483
01:29:16,550 --> 01:29:15,600
kevin day um i had him in the last

2484
01:29:18,629 --> 01:29:16,560
chapter of my

2485
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:18,639
my book because i thought it was such a

2486
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:20,880
a powerful statement of someone in the

2487
01:29:23,830 --> 01:29:21,760
military

2488
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:23,840
they're still human and these events

2489
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:25,760
affect them greatly on many different

2490
01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:27,120
levels whether it's their personal

2491
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:27,840
beliefs

2492
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:30,159
or um you know the faith they have in

2493
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:30,960
their own

2494
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:33,760
establishment uh that being the navy and

2495
01:29:37,350 --> 01:29:35,040
uh

2496
01:29:38,070 --> 01:29:37,360
i remember distinctly him telling me

2497
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:38,080
dude

2498
01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:40,400
i was waiting tables at a golf course

2499
01:29:44,229 --> 01:29:42,320
volunteering to help them

2500
01:29:45,910 --> 01:29:44,239
raise money one day and i was carrying a

2501
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:45,920
plate of fish and chips

2502
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:49,040
and i looked up on the tv and i saw

2503
01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:51,520
the tic tac ufo video right and then i

2504
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:53,600
saw david fravor being interviewed

2505
01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:55,360
he's like i dropped the plate it

2506
01:29:58,390 --> 01:29:57,280
shattered everywhere and as i'm picking

2507
01:30:01,830 --> 01:29:58,400
up the pieces

2508
01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:01,840
i saw tears coming down into the

2509
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:04,159
broken shattered he was so poetic about

2510
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:05,760
it into the glass because i

2511
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:08,320
immediately had this reaction of finally

2512
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:09,920
this event that i was a part of that i

2513
01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:11,120
haven't talked about

2514
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:13,199
because everyone made fun of me when i

2515
01:30:16,310 --> 01:30:14,560
first brought it forward

2516
01:30:18,390 --> 01:30:16,320
and that i didn't talk about for many

2517
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:18,400
years it was about to be blown wide open

2518
01:30:21,510 --> 01:30:18,960
in that

2519
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:21,520
the pilots were finally talking about it

2520
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:23,280
so that was enough of for him to finally

2521
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:23,679
be like

2522
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:26,239
all right i can tell my story and he did

2523
01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:27,760
in many different um

2524
01:30:30,870 --> 01:30:29,679
mediums and everything so you're so

2525
01:30:33,990 --> 01:30:30,880
right imagine

2526
01:30:36,870 --> 01:30:34,000
what not just unidentified the tv

2527
01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:36,880
show or um the navy ufo videos or even

2528
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:38,080
this report coming up

2529
01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:40,400
imagine what it'll do for more military

2530
01:30:45,189 --> 01:30:42,080
people out there being like

2531
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:45,199
hey um i i saw something i kind of want

2532
01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:47,040
to talk about it so yeah i think

2533
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:50,320
i think they're coming here well i had

2534
01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:52,480
and this was like 12 or 13 years ago it

2535
01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:54,400
was a fun little story

2536
01:30:57,669 --> 01:30:57,199
um i had my brother was getting married

2537
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,679
and

2538
01:31:01,910 --> 01:30:59,840
his there was obviously but it was a

2539
01:31:02,950 --> 01:31:01,920
typical california wedding it was

2540
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:02,960
gorgeous

2541
01:31:06,470 --> 01:31:05,520
um and in that wedding there was a

2542
01:31:09,189 --> 01:31:06,480
gentleman

2543
01:31:10,629 --> 01:31:09,199
who was related to the family i want to

2544
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:10,639
be specific

2545
01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:13,679
but he was an f-16 fighter pilot

2546
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:15,440
he had run bombing missions in

2547
01:31:19,110 --> 01:31:16,800
afghanistan

2548
01:31:20,629 --> 01:31:19,120
and i buttered this guy up for three

2549
01:31:22,629 --> 01:31:20,639
hours

2550
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:22,639
uh just talking to him about everything

2551
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:23,679
under the sun

2552
01:31:26,709 --> 01:31:25,280
and then toward the end of the night

2553
01:31:28,390 --> 01:31:26,719
when i wanted to ask the question i

2554
01:31:30,950 --> 01:31:28,400
really wanted to ask i asked him

2555
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:30,960
and that was hey man flying missions in

2556
01:31:37,510 --> 01:31:34,000
these f-16s have you ever seen anything

2557
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:37,520
unexplainable um you know a ufo

2558
01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:41,280
and he looked at me and he said yep

2559
01:31:45,430 --> 01:31:44,320
i sure have uh and gave me two different

2560
01:31:49,110 --> 01:31:45,440
stories

2561
01:31:50,390 --> 01:31:49,120
uh that were insane and i'll never

2562
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:50,400
forget these because when you

2563
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:53,040
actually have an f-16 fighter pilot

2564
01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:54,400
sitting in front of you

2565
01:31:57,910 --> 01:31:56,080
and telling you this it's a lot

2566
01:31:58,629 --> 01:31:57,920
different than watching it on tv it's a

2567
01:32:02,070 --> 01:31:58,639
lot different

2568
01:32:05,830 --> 01:32:02,080
than hearing it on a podcast this guy

2569
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:05,840
dropped bombs in an active theater of

2570
01:32:12,149 --> 01:32:09,120
combat he's killed people

2571
01:32:14,390 --> 01:32:12,159
um you know like that's a heavy

2572
01:32:17,110 --> 01:32:14,400
heavy burden to be walking around with

2573
01:32:20,390 --> 01:32:17,120
and then on top of that you've also seen

2574
01:32:23,669 --> 01:32:20,400
ufos on two different occasions um

2575
01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:23,679
i haven't talked to this guy in 13 or 14

2576
01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:25,120
years

2577
01:32:28,149 --> 01:32:27,760
he's now a commercial pilot working for

2578
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:28,159
a

2579
01:32:35,910 --> 01:32:33,679
this guy on my show

2580
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:35,920
for since i started it but i never

2581
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:37,920
called him because

2582
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:39,679
i wanted to make sure my show was in the

2583
01:32:44,229 --> 01:32:41,440
right space before

2584
01:32:45,830 --> 01:32:44,239
i brought somebody like that on and so

2585
01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:45,840
now i felt like that's the

2586
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:47,360
right now is the time i feel like the

2587
01:32:50,390 --> 01:32:49,120
show's in the perfect space to bring

2588
01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:50,400
somebody like that on

2589
01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:53,679
and so i called him the other day and

2590
01:32:57,030 --> 01:32:56,000
i haven't talked to this person in 13

2591
01:33:00,950 --> 01:32:57,040
years

2592
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:00,960
wow he was in los angeles when i called

2593
01:33:08,790 --> 01:33:03,520
him he was in the exact same town

2594
01:33:12,390 --> 01:33:08,800
on a layover for 24 hours and

2595
01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:12,400
uh and i called him and it was just like

2596
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:14,719
we we immediately almost picked up the

2597
01:33:17,669 --> 01:33:16,400
conversation right where we left it off

2598
01:33:19,110 --> 01:33:17,679
13 years ago

2599
01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:19,120
and i was telling man hey look i

2600
01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:20,880
remember this i remember this

2601
01:33:26,149 --> 01:33:23,920
um you know would you be because what i

2602
01:33:29,189 --> 01:33:26,159
really want on my show

2603
01:33:31,830 --> 01:33:29,199
is a pilot a pilot that could that

2604
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:31,840
contributes to our discussion

2605
01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:33,920
on a regular basis because a lot of

2606
01:33:37,669 --> 01:33:36,080
times especially when it comes to

2607
01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:37,679
the trigonometry of things the

2608
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:39,120
mathematic of things

2609
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:42,080
the way pilots think like we're just

2610
01:33:45,510 --> 01:33:42,880
guessing

2611
01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:45,520
we're we're taking our best guess at the

2612
01:33:48,629 --> 01:33:47,040
information that we're looking at

2613
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:48,639
and so when we have somebody on like

2614
01:33:52,070 --> 01:33:50,800
midwest or we have somebody on that's is

2615
01:33:54,709 --> 01:33:52,080
saying one thing or another

2616
01:33:55,350 --> 01:33:54,719
it'd be cool to be like hey mr pilot can

2617
01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:55,360
you come in

2618
01:33:58,950 --> 01:33:57,360
and and set something straight and maybe

2619
01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:58,960
add some perspective and nuance of

2620
01:34:02,709 --> 01:34:00,320
things

2621
01:34:04,709 --> 01:34:02,719
and uh i think it's gonna take a lot of

2622
01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:04,719
convincing for me because he's still

2623
01:34:10,470 --> 01:34:08,560
look this stigma is still so heavy

2624
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:10,480
that he doesn't want to talk publicly

2625
01:34:15,990 --> 01:34:12,320
because he's got a job

2626
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:16,000
he's got a job with a major airline

2627
01:34:21,669 --> 01:34:18,880
but he's intrigued he's very very

2628
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:21,679
intrigued but one cool story he told me

2629
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:25,120
uh was the go fast

2630
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:28,080
the go fast video he's like i've seen

2631
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:28,560
that

2632
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:33,600
it wasn't above the ocean it was above

2633
01:34:37,270 --> 01:34:36,400
land and he's like i wasn't flying the

2634
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:37,280
plane he's like

2635
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:40,400
he just saw the cockpit video um and the

2636
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:42,320
reason why he saw the cockpit video was

2637
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:44,480
because they were trying to figure out

2638
01:34:49,830 --> 01:34:47,280
what it was this was again this was at

2639
01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:49,840
the tail end of the iraq the first iraq

2640
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:50,880
war

2641
01:34:58,149 --> 01:34:54,560
and they catch this fast-moving object

2642
01:34:59,669 --> 01:34:58,159
uh i mean he said it looked exactly like

2643
01:35:01,669 --> 01:34:59,679
the go fast

2644
01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:01,679
and pentagon couldn't figure out the

2645
01:35:05,270 --> 01:35:03,119
pilots cannot figure it out

2646
01:35:07,350 --> 01:35:05,280
the all of the instruments that they had

2647
01:35:10,709 --> 01:35:07,360
on it just couldn't

2648
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:10,719
could not put a label on it

2649
01:35:15,109 --> 01:35:13,600
so when he saw the go fast he was like

2650
01:35:17,830 --> 01:35:15,119
oh yeah

2651
01:35:19,750 --> 01:35:17,840
it rung true to him immediately and then

2652
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:19,760
we started talking about

2653
01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:22,960
you know the um the motivations like

2654
01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:24,960
why why would these pilots put

2655
01:35:29,350 --> 01:35:26,320
themselves in front of

2656
01:35:31,189 --> 01:35:29,360
cameras and tell this story

2657
01:35:32,550 --> 01:35:31,199
if they didn't believe it he's like they

2658
01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:32,560
wouldn't he's like this

2659
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:36,239
is he's like again this guy will not

2660
01:35:39,510 --> 01:35:38,400
come on my show because he's afraid of

2661
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:39,520
the stigma

2662
01:35:45,750 --> 01:35:43,199
like the the amount of work

2663
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:45,760
um that goes into getting into that

2664
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:47,679
cockpit seat

2665
01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:50,719
is tremendous he's like you have no id

2666
01:35:54,229 --> 01:35:53,360
you really none of us have a clue how

2667
01:35:57,910 --> 01:35:54,239
much work

2668
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:57,920
and how final line you have to walk

2669
01:36:02,070 --> 01:36:00,639
to get the permission to fly a billion

2670
01:36:05,270 --> 01:36:02,080
dollar jet

2671
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:05,280
in a in an active combat situation

2672
01:36:11,669 --> 01:36:08,880
and these people did that and

2673
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:11,679
you know it's i think it's why mick west

2674
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:13,760
is starting to change his tune a little

2675
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:14,080
bit

2676
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:16,880
at least he did on my show yeah because

2677
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:19,199
this alex dietrich story

2678
01:36:24,470 --> 01:36:23,119
is powerful it's powerful um and the way

2679
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:24,480
she handled him

2680
01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:26,159
look if you want to learn how to talk to

2681
01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:27,840
mick west go watch that alec dietrich

2682
01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:28,880
interview with him

2683
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:30,800
she she handled him perfectly she laid

2684
01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:32,320
out the playbook on how to deal with

2685
01:36:37,189 --> 01:36:33,280
mick west

2686
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:37,199
and it's simply be quiet listen

2687
01:36:41,990 --> 01:36:40,400
and then rebut you know because a lot of

2688
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:42,000
people bring their emotion to this

2689
01:36:44,870 --> 01:36:43,280
argument with mick west

2690
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:44,880
you need to leave your emotion at the

2691
01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:47,600
door if you notice alex dietrich

2692
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:50,000
very calm yeah she just said she did not

2693
01:36:58,470 --> 01:36:57,430
yeah yeah you know um and then gave a

2694
01:37:00,629 --> 01:36:58,480
beautiful

2695
01:37:02,790 --> 01:37:00,639
rebuttal without even answering his

2696
01:37:05,270 --> 01:37:02,800
question but she did she answered it in

2697
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:05,280
a much more prosaic way

2698
01:37:08,629 --> 01:37:07,679
which is i'm not crazy i'm a

2699
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:08,639
mathematician

2700
01:37:12,310 --> 01:37:11,360
i'm a scientist on some levels i flew

2701
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:12,320
one of the

2702
01:37:19,510 --> 01:37:15,840
man on the planet

2703
01:37:21,109 --> 01:37:19,520
um it's not a balloon

2704
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:21,119
it's not a balloon and i think that's

2705
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:23,440
why he's like it's a case that

2706
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:25,440
i haven't figured out i haven't debunked

2707
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:27,440
it he has not debunked the fraver

2708
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:30,000
dietrich uh story no matter how much you

2709
01:37:34,070 --> 01:37:31,679
think he says he has he hasn't

2710
01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:34,080
he's put suggestions out he's put

2711
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:35,199
theories out

2712
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:36,960
but he hasn't debunked it and he will

2713
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:38,400
say that he has he did

2714
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:39,840
on my show he said that on your show

2715
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:42,239
that that's the one case that he's like

2716
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:44,800
i can't explain it and look exactly what

2717
01:37:48,070 --> 01:37:45,679
we need

2718
01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:48,080
exactly and uh again for those who are

2719
01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:49,760
watching mick west is a

2720
01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:52,400
a skeptic in this community um who does

2721
01:37:56,629 --> 01:37:54,000
some really fine work

2722
01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:56,639
at times um and a lot of people agree

2723
01:37:59,189 --> 01:37:58,480
with him and don't and disagree with him

2724
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:59,199
on many things

2725
01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:01,360
but he's very he's cheeky yeah i know

2726
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:02,639
come on he could come off like an

2727
01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:03,280
[\h__\h]

2728
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:05,280
the british coming out in him yeah but

2729
01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:06,400
he is but uh

2730
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:09,840
but yeah he he did a reaction video this

2731
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:11,679
morning i think about the report coming

2732
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:12,239
out

2733
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:14,400
and i was surprised to hear him say like

2734
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:16,239
i thought it was pretty good and not in

2735
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:16,480
the

2736
01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:20,480
it's not aliens he didn't say that in

2737
01:38:23,830 --> 01:38:21,119
the video

2738
01:38:24,390 --> 01:38:23,840
but but and he's right like we don't

2739
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:24,400
know about

2740
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,520
aliens but he did what he said was um

2741
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:29,760
more science needs to be done and i

2742
01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:31,679
could that i think that encapsulates

2743
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:33,840
this entire conversation

2744
01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:36,320
that we can have cases we can have

2745
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:37,840
testimony we can have

2746
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:40,239
the uh military saying yeah it went

2747
01:38:43,990 --> 01:38:41,760
right past our plane like

2748
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:44,000
we should probably look into that um but

2749
01:38:47,189 --> 01:38:45,119
the science

2750
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:47,199
is where we're really gonna understand

2751
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:48,320
this and um

2752
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:50,000
i think that's what's most important let

2753
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:52,960
me um shout out here for a minute buddy

2754
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:54,880
thank you so much man i'm new to this

2755
01:38:59,910 --> 01:38:57,600
whole super chat thing so dude

2756
01:39:02,310 --> 01:38:59,920
savvy you got no you don't have to be

2757
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,320
savvy dude just do your live

2758
01:39:05,910 --> 01:39:04,320
and you're gonna have your fans interact

2759
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:05,920
with you like this aaron desario he's

2760
01:39:09,590 --> 01:39:06,960
he's about to be there

2761
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:09,600
thank you yeah yes you know i love his

2762
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,239
thoughts

2763
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:12,960
uh and he's a cool dude but i mean look

2764
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:14,320
this is how we're meeting new people

2765
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:15,600
this is how we're interacting with

2766
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:17,520
people it's through these live forums

2767
01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:19,360
because people can ask questions and we

2768
01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:21,520
can answer them right away exactly um

2769
01:39:25,189 --> 01:39:22,639
and people

2770
01:39:28,149 --> 01:39:25,199
as well thank you thank you for the uh

2771
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:28,159
the things there guys um

2772
01:39:32,149 --> 01:39:29,760
rather said you're doing super right

2773
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:32,159
thanks buddy again i'm great

2774
01:39:35,270 --> 01:39:34,159
i'm trying you've been doing this longer

2775
01:39:37,990 --> 01:39:35,280
than everybody man

2776
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:38,000
like this is in your blood bro you

2777
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:39,840
should be doing this once a week talking

2778
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:41,040
to your yeah

2779
01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:44,080
remember like you i'm a former actor and

2780
01:39:46,709 --> 01:39:46,080
also a playwright so i'm a slave to a

2781
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:46,719
script

2782
01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:49,920
and i suck at improv man i failed every

2783
01:39:54,310 --> 01:39:51,199
improv class i ever got

2784
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:54,320
no no no no no no no no no no so this

2785
01:39:57,910 --> 01:39:55,520
whole live thing is new

2786
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,920
dude ryan you're doing great this is

2787
01:40:00,790 --> 01:39:59,360
exciting you don't have to do anything

2788
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:00,800
all you got to do is be yourself and

2789
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:02,800
show up this is not an improv scene

2790
01:40:06,229 --> 01:40:04,480
there's not a word that people gave us

2791
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:06,239
like this is it's

2792
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:07,679
you know what you're talking about dude

2793
01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:10,080
just just talk about it that's it

2794
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:11,679
and that's all you got to do it's

2795
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:13,360
nothing to it man it's super easy

2796
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:16,320
um but i mean like the one thing i loved

2797
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:18,400
about the mick west interview was

2798
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:20,080
i was like mick what's it gonna take for

2799
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:22,800
you to change your tune completely to

2800
01:40:27,510 --> 01:40:25,920
be like okay there's actually something

2801
01:40:29,350 --> 01:40:27,520
really mysterious here and i'm going to

2802
01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:29,360
admit it and he said

2803
01:40:32,709 --> 01:40:31,679
it was very reasonable i need if you if

2804
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:32,719
we had say

2805
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:35,760
that tic tac video with two angles

2806
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:39,040
from two different planes mick wouldn't

2807
01:40:41,990 --> 01:40:40,239
be able to debunk it

2808
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:42,000
he would he just wouldn't you know it

2809
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,440
would be a lot and if

2810
01:40:47,350 --> 01:40:45,360
he said it would be a lot more difficult

2811
01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:47,360
for me to debunk something like that

2812
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:50,320
and i think that's exactly what we're

2813
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:51,600
eventually gonna get

2814
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,360
eventually we're gonna get two angles

2815
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:55,440
we're gonna get cockpit recordings

2816
01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:57,119
i don't know if we'll get the actual

2817
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,760
radar depending on how new the video is

2818
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:01,760
but if we can get two angles two

2819
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:03,440
cockpits two cameras

2820
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:06,960
on the same object game changer

2821
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:09,440
absolutely game changer what do you

2822
01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:10,560
think

2823
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:12,639
was in the classified report i know this

2824
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:13,920
is completely

2825
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:16,239
speculative but like good question some

2826
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,320
of them said there were videos there

2827
01:41:22,310 --> 01:41:19,840
were photos shown

2828
01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:22,320
some of them came out visibly shaken

2829
01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:23,040
some were like

2830
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:25,520
yeah it's kind of what i expected um

2831
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:26,080
yeah

2832
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:28,000
and i'm hoping again that we'll start to

2833
01:41:30,470 --> 01:41:29,679
hear more from some of these people who

2834
01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:30,480
are briefed

2835
01:41:34,470 --> 01:41:32,960
in the classified sector um without them

2836
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:34,480
getting in trouble of course

2837
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:36,639
but yeah do you think there was anything

2838
01:41:42,390 --> 01:41:37,520
in there that

2839
01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:42,400
like truly made them think this could be

2840
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:45,840
e.t like this is not mandatory this is i

2841
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:47,840
definitely think there was stuff in that

2842
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:49,920
unclassified or the classified part of

2843
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:50,480
it

2844
01:41:56,310 --> 01:41:53,600
um i think in that classified version

2845
01:41:58,709 --> 01:41:56,320
you're probably getting radar you're

2846
01:42:00,709 --> 01:41:58,719
probably getting multiple camera systems

2847
01:42:02,470 --> 01:42:00,719
you're probably getting a testimony or

2848
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:02,480
at least um

2849
01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:04,239
an after like i would love to know if

2850
01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:06,639
the if the immediate after report

2851
01:42:10,390 --> 01:42:08,960
like the debrief the actual debriefing

2852
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:10,400
that they did where they write down

2853
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:11,760
everything that happened and then they

2854
01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:13,600
turned that in

2855
01:42:17,750 --> 01:42:16,639
i would not be shocked if that was part

2856
01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:17,760
of the report

2857
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:20,080
uh wouldn't be shocked if maybe they got

2858
01:42:23,510 --> 01:42:21,920
multiple camera angles kind of like what

2859
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:23,520
mick is asking for

2860
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:26,000
i mean i think basically they got

2861
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:27,360
everything that we

2862
01:42:32,310 --> 01:42:30,719
want they got a peek behind the

2863
01:42:34,629 --> 01:42:32,320
classified wall because they're

2864
01:42:37,830 --> 01:42:34,639
congressmen and senators and they have

2865
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:37,840
they have the uh the

2866
01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:41,040
clearance to look at that stuff

2867
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:42,880
and i wouldn't even be shocked if there

2868
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:44,080
was like a

2869
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:46,480
you know classified classified report

2870
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:47,600
where maybe

2871
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:48,960
you know the senate intelligence

2872
01:42:51,590 --> 01:42:50,639
committees the guys that really really

2873
01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:51,600
deal with this

2874
01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:53,520
uh with the security of the nation and

2875
01:42:58,629 --> 01:42:55,520
how things run militarily

2876
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:58,639
like yeah i think there's videos in

2877
01:43:02,550 --> 01:42:58,960
there

2878
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:02,560
radar

2879
01:43:10,870 --> 01:43:06,000
i think there is a lot more sensitive

2880
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:10,880
classified collection uh processes that

2881
01:43:15,510 --> 01:43:13,440
they just don't want public to know you

2882
01:43:15,990 --> 01:43:15,520
know like i again i think a big issue

2883
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:16,000
with this

2884
01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:18,080
is not so much the results i think

2885
01:43:21,270 --> 01:43:19,920
they're okay with everybody knowing the

2886
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:21,280
result which is

2887
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:23,760
they're real um and you guys can start

2888
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:25,600
having a conversation of speculation

2889
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:27,280
past that that's up to you guys they're

2890
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:28,560
real though

2891
01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:30,880
what we can't tell you is how we got to

2892
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:32,480
that conclusion

2893
01:43:35,590 --> 01:43:34,560
we can't show you we can't show you how

2894
01:43:37,350 --> 01:43:35,600
we got there

2895
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:37,360
and so that's that's the issue they're

2896
01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:39,280
running into which is why

2897
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:41,600
we need to advocate for public funding

2898
01:43:45,590 --> 01:43:44,000
because now it's time for universities

2899
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:45,600
and scientists to start getting the

2900
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:46,480
answers

2901
01:43:49,990 --> 01:43:47,920
themselves now they've got the

2902
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:50,000
permission because they've got the

2903
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:51,840
government telling them hey these things

2904
01:43:54,149 --> 01:43:52,400
are real

2905
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:54,159
science we need you to look at it oh

2906
01:43:56,790 --> 01:43:55,920
here by the way here's a 100 million

2907
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:56,800
dollar grant

2908
01:44:02,470 --> 01:43:59,840
to whoever wants to apply for it um

2909
01:44:03,910 --> 01:44:02,480
you know to study specifically this i

2910
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:03,920
think we're going to start getting that

2911
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:05,040
i think we're going to start getting

2912
01:44:07,189 --> 01:44:06,800
universities and academics looking at

2913
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:07,199
this

2914
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:10,239
yes getting the data ourselves i think

2915
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:14,080
i think what if the government was smart

2916
01:44:19,830 --> 01:44:17,360
it would it would open up a grant

2917
01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,840
that any academic institution could

2918
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:20,960
apply for

2919
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:23,040
where they get an allotted amount of

2920
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:24,000
funding

2921
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:28,000
and whatever the data they collect

2922
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:30,000
they have it's open source they could

2923
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:31,760
share with whoever they want but they

2924
01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:33,520
also have to share that data with the

2925
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:34,239
government

2926
01:44:39,510 --> 01:44:37,360
data sets

2927
01:44:40,390 --> 01:44:39,520
and compare it to the classified data

2928
01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:40,400
sets

2929
01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:42,800
put those things together see what cross

2930
01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:44,639
references see what does what

2931
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:46,800
and then then they could go and say take

2932
01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:48,960
that information and say okay

2933
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:50,960
here you go universities here's what we

2934
01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:52,719
found here are the commonalities

2935
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:54,880
here's another grant let's try to figure

2936
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:55,920
it out even more

2937
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:57,679
you know it's this is going to need

2938
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:00,080
constant funding and constant money

2939
01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:03,520
to make sure that we're we're pushing

2940
01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:06,080
the questions to the absolute limit and

2941
01:45:09,189 --> 01:45:06,960
getting as many

2942
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:09,199
answers as we can just because it's

2943
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:10,560
mysterious

2944
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:13,040
just because it's unpredictable doesn't

2945
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:14,320
mean it cannot be

2946
01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:17,280
studied yeah good point such a good

2947
01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:17,840
point

2948
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:19,679
what do you think of this question here

2949
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:21,119
lou what do you think about all the hate

2950
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:22,880
elizondo and corbell are getting on

2951
01:45:25,030 --> 01:45:23,520
reddit

2952
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:25,040
since the report released personally i

2953
01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:26,800
think it's very unfair it's what do you

2954
01:45:30,149 --> 01:45:27,520
think

2955
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:30,159
it's [\h__\h] yeah just if you're giving

2956
01:45:35,189 --> 01:45:31,920
these guys [\h__\h] it's because you

2957
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:35,199
set your expectations too high you

2958
01:45:39,030 --> 01:45:37,600
you know jeremy corbell he's a showman

2959
01:45:42,550 --> 01:45:39,040
he's a bit of a showman

2960
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:42,560
but guess what so is cbs so is nbc

2961
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:44,639
anytime they have a huge report or

2962
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:46,080
something they want to talk about or

2963
01:45:51,189 --> 01:45:46,719
promote

2964
01:45:54,229 --> 01:45:51,199
gives them any flack for promoting right

2965
01:45:56,950 --> 01:45:54,239
you know their uh casey anthony you know

2966
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:56,960
you know 20 year later special report

2967
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:59,040
you know like nobody ever

2968
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:01,119
busts the chops of 60 minutes to do that

2969
01:46:04,870 --> 01:46:02,800
but the second that

2970
01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:04,880
jeremy corbell puts a watermark on

2971
01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:06,080
something or

2972
01:46:09,590 --> 01:46:08,320
releases something at high noon people

2973
01:46:13,030 --> 01:46:09,600
lose their [\h__\h]

2974
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:13,040
and and and look jeremy corbell has

2975
01:46:17,270 --> 01:46:13,760
theories

2976
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:17,280
but jeremy corbell

2977
01:46:22,550 --> 01:46:20,560
also is not telling you 100

2978
01:46:24,390 --> 01:46:22,560
definitively what it is he's putting the

2979
01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:24,400
data sets out there he's trying to let

2980
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:26,480
you guys figure it out on your own

2981
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:28,800
um i think that's a little unfair you

2982
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,920
know i would say pr

2983
01:46:33,430 --> 01:46:31,600
you know you're jeremy corbell provide

2984
01:46:34,629 --> 01:46:33,440
some experts to help people decipher

2985
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:34,639
this information

2986
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:36,960
i think just the more clarity you bring

2987
01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:38,400
to these videos and things that you're

2988
01:46:42,070 --> 01:46:38,800
doing

2989
01:46:44,229 --> 01:46:42,080
the better um you know so as far as

2990
01:46:45,270 --> 01:46:44,239
louis lozando i don't know why anybody

2991
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:45,280
would be giving this guy

2992
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:47,840
any [\h__\h] whatsoever he has set the

2993
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:50,080
expectation

2994
01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:52,560
i would love somebody anybody to go back

2995
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:55,119
for the last six months and make a super

2996
01:46:57,430 --> 01:46:55,440
cut

2997
01:46:58,709 --> 01:46:57,440
of all of the things that louis lozando

2998
01:47:01,270 --> 01:46:58,719
has said is going to either be

2999
01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:01,280
in the report uh or what's going to be

3000
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:02,800
the report's going to be about

3001
01:47:07,430 --> 01:47:05,199
and you will never find anything

3002
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:07,440
remotely close to

3003
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:10,560
you again alien bodies meta materials um

3004
01:47:14,790 --> 01:47:12,800
aliens none of that stuff it's always

3005
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:14,800
been expected delay

3006
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:17,920
uh these these these uh departments are

3007
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:19,920
not ready to report on this and it kind

3008
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:21,360
of shows like this

3009
01:47:25,830 --> 01:47:23,920
even even for as disorganized as they

3010
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:25,840
were i was shocked at how good this

3011
01:47:29,830 --> 01:47:26,639
report was

3012
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:29,840
yeah i was expecting so much less

3013
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:31,840
um and it seems like they actually did a

3014
01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:33,600
decent job and that's just

3015
01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:36,239
six months now give them another six

3016
01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:37,600
months or a year

3017
01:47:41,350 --> 01:47:39,280
or give them a hundred million dollar

3018
01:47:44,709 --> 01:47:41,360
budget and see what they come up with

3019
01:47:47,669 --> 01:47:44,719
you know like i'm gonna be honest i i

3020
01:47:48,550 --> 01:47:47,679
honestly in my heart of hearts thought

3021
01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:48,560
it would be

3022
01:47:54,870 --> 01:47:51,600
a one-page statement i really did

3023
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:54,880
and anything after that i was going to

3024
01:47:57,750 --> 01:47:55,199
be

3025
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:57,760
excited about so the fact that it was i

3026
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:59,600
know it was only nine pages one of which

3027
01:48:02,550 --> 01:48:00,080
was

3028
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:02,560
independent uh you know the appendix at

3029
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:04,080
the end and everything and

3030
01:48:11,109 --> 01:48:07,520
uh cover page um right i was still

3031
01:48:13,030 --> 01:48:11,119
again my expectations were so low that i

3032
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:13,040
really liked it and i know you talked

3033
01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:14,159
about this a lot

3034
01:48:17,669 --> 01:48:16,400
on your show if okay first of all if

3035
01:48:20,229 --> 01:48:17,679
anyone hasn't

3036
01:48:21,669 --> 01:48:20,239
go over to unidentified celebrity review

3037
01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,679
channel right now

3038
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:23,520
it was over three hours i think it was

3039
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:25,360
one of the most epic conversations

3040
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:27,760
to happen and the report dropped as you

3041
01:48:32,229 --> 01:48:29,679
guys were going live

3042
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:32,239
so we got like the raw reactions to it

3043
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:33,199
and it was amazing

3044
01:48:36,629 --> 01:48:34,960
tell us a little bit yeah i had an

3045
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:36,639
inside track on when the report was

3046
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:37,600
coming out

3047
01:48:43,430 --> 01:48:40,719
oh somebody somebody had told me

3048
01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:43,440
uh he didn't wait when i lose you right

3049
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:45,360
somebody told me that it was gonna come

3050
01:48:48,310 --> 01:48:46,000
out around

3051
01:48:50,229 --> 01:48:48,320
four o'clock on friday and i was like oh

3052
01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:50,239
that's perfect that's exactly when my

3053
01:48:54,709 --> 01:48:51,760
show pop comes on

3054
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:54,719
so we got lucky from that regard but but

3055
01:48:59,030 --> 01:48:57,440
i also had known i was like you know

3056
01:49:01,669 --> 01:48:59,040
there's a possibility that it gets

3057
01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:01,679
delayed a couple hours maybe we don't uh

3058
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:03,440
maybe we don't actually get to talk

3059
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:05,280
about it live because it comes out maybe

3060
01:49:09,109 --> 01:49:06,880
after our show

3061
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:09,119
we got lucky you know if you have good

3062
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:10,000
you know i

3063
01:49:14,950 --> 01:49:12,320
luckily i had the the right information

3064
01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:14,960
and and the report came out

3065
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:17,440
literally 40 minutes into our show we

3066
01:49:21,910 --> 01:49:19,119
had three journalists

3067
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:21,920
all over including rather who who read

3068
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:23,599
the report while we were doing this show

3069
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,280
live and then they came and reported on

3070
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:27,360
it and it

3071
01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:29,440
it was awesome dude it was so cool we

3072
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:31,199
had a killer discussion

3073
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:33,840
and and i think this is what people are

3074
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:36,320
starving for they're starving for

3075
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:39,280
this kind of breakdown on this kind of

3076
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:41,280
information because it can get confusing

3077
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:43,040
like you read this report and you don't

3078
01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:45,760
know anything about dod or navy

3079
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:48,960
and it's it's gonna read like stereo

3080
01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:49,920
instructions

3081
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:53,040
this report was not for us yeah this was

3082
01:49:56,470 --> 01:49:53,760
for the

3083
01:49:57,990 --> 01:49:56,480
this was for everyone um most of which

3084
01:49:59,189 --> 01:49:58,000
don't look into this topic don't know

3085
01:50:01,750 --> 01:49:59,199
about the different departments

3086
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:01,760
don't know about the history and baggage

3087
01:50:05,109 --> 01:50:03,119
of ufos in the government

3088
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:05,119
so it's for the normies as jazz likes to

3089
01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:06,719
say the normies

3090
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:09,280
um well let me thank artemis right here

3091
01:50:12,229 --> 01:50:11,119
um not a question just sending love i

3092
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:12,239
appreciate all the work you guys are

3093
01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:13,599
putting into this topic

3094
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:15,520
for everyone this is just the beginning

3095
01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:17,280
we have to be positive thank you artemis

3096
01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:18,239
i appreciate that

3097
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:21,840
and actually i wanted to um i wanted to

3098
01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:24,800
read a uh a message i got from luella

3099
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:26,480
zondo that he wanted to give

3100
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:29,360
to everyone here um and we quoted this

3101
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:31,360
recently as well in the debrief

3102
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:34,320
uh elizondo says to everyone the united

3103
01:50:38,229 --> 01:50:36,239
states government is only now beginning

3104
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:38,239
to take a serious look at this

3105
01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:39,920
clearly we have more unanswered

3106
01:50:44,709 --> 01:50:42,560
questions and an overwhelming need for a

3107
01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:44,719
whole of government approach

3108
01:50:50,390 --> 01:50:47,360
so straight from the mouth of the former

3109
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:50,400
director of the pentagon ufo program um

3110
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:52,560
i can't wait to see what he's up to

3111
01:50:56,550 --> 01:50:54,080
because like he said

3112
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,560
he's got plans if the government isn't

3113
01:51:01,350 --> 01:50:58,400
going to give you guys information

3114
01:51:03,270 --> 01:51:01,360
uh we'll make it happen somehow so i

3115
01:51:04,790 --> 01:51:03,280
mean look what's going on with the ig

3116
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:04,800
you know he's he's putting the right

3117
01:51:09,030 --> 01:51:06,480
pressure on man he's got the ig

3118
01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:09,040
on this i mean that cover letter the ig

3119
01:51:12,550 --> 01:51:10,159
was basically like

3120
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:12,560
look i've tried for years to get this

3121
01:51:14,390 --> 01:51:14,000
information in the hands of the right

3122
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:14,400
people

3123
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,080
yeah and now that process is under the

3124
01:51:25,109 --> 01:51:22,320
microscope of the inspector general

3125
01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:25,119
so that process i think is going to get

3126
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,080
blown

3127
01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:28,639
up because there's going to be a so the

3128
01:51:32,070 --> 01:51:30,080
inspector general is going to go

3129
01:51:33,430 --> 01:51:32,080
well wait a second why did this

3130
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:33,440
information stop

3131
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:35,440
here when it should have gone up at

3132
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,920
least two more chains of authority right

3133
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:39,840
why is it getting bottlenecked at this

3134
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:42,000
department who the hell are you guys why

3135
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:43,119
are you doing this

3136
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:45,119
who gave you the permission to do this

3137
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:46,560
it's gonna be it's it's gonna be an

3138
01:51:49,270 --> 01:51:47,119
issue

3139
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,280
like i think it's going to change how

3140
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:51,360
the flow of information from the bottom

3141
01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:52,320
to the top

3142
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:54,560
when it comes to uap and ufos i mean

3143
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:55,360
look at what

3144
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:58,320
macmillan wrote yesterday it's just just

3145
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:00,000
a beautiful piece

3146
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:02,400
on the the navy secretary who is a

3147
01:52:06,070 --> 01:52:03,679
civilian

3148
01:52:07,589 --> 01:52:06,080
and is looking at the totality of

3149
01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:07,599
foreign policy

3150
01:52:13,830 --> 01:52:10,880
and this uap issue so we've got

3151
01:52:14,470 --> 01:52:13,840
this uh uh this what was there her uh

3152
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:14,480
his name

3153
01:52:21,830 --> 01:52:18,320
something mobis ray mobis who is the uh

3154
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:21,840
secretary the navy secretary and uh

3155
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:24,000
essentially with the way macmillan wrote

3156
01:52:29,750 --> 01:52:26,400
it he's the ceo of the navy

3157
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:29,760
essentially and the uap

3158
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:33,440
issue came across his desk multiple

3159
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:34,480
times

3160
01:52:42,310 --> 01:52:39,679
exact same time that this uap

3161
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:42,320
issues coming across the desk you've got

3162
01:52:46,950 --> 01:52:43,440
iran

3163
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:46,960
and iraq in a in a war

3164
01:52:52,470 --> 01:52:50,159
you've got a war going on

3165
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:52,480
on the on the horn of south africa

3166
01:52:57,189 --> 01:52:53,520
you've got

3167
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:57,199
literal threat of nuclear

3168
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:00,239
holocaust with north korea like all of

3169
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:02,719
this [\h__\h] is going down at the same time

3170
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:06,560
oh and by the way this uap thing

3171
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:09,119
it's just it goes down on this

3172
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:11,280
especially the way macmillan

3173
01:53:17,830 --> 01:53:14,320
freight you know preface this with

3174
01:53:20,709 --> 01:53:17,840
these objects are not threatening

3175
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:20,719
they're not blowing things up they're

3176
01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:21,040
not

3177
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:22,960
killing anything as a matter of fact in

3178
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:24,080
some cases

3179
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,760
they look like they're being playful

3180
01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:27,840
with us you know like

3181
01:53:32,390 --> 01:53:30,480
it's it's it's not a threat it's not a

3182
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:32,400
threat in the way that north korea is a

3183
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:33,040
threat

3184
01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:36,239
or you know civil war in in in

3185
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:38,960
in south in you know uh south africa

3186
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:39,679
like

3187
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:42,960
these these pressing issues need human

3188
01:53:46,870 --> 01:53:44,480
attention and this uap

3189
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:46,880
thing is falling to the wayside which is

3190
01:53:50,470 --> 01:53:48,000
why

3191
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:50,480
um you know you've got uh was her name

3192
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:51,520
samantha hicks

3193
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:54,880
or kathleen hicks from that

3194
01:53:59,589 --> 01:53:57,440
right the dod she she this is why she

3195
01:54:02,589 --> 01:53:59,599
wrote this letter and why she wrote

3196
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,599
this plan of attack and why we need a

3197
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:03,840
uaptf

3198
01:54:10,550 --> 01:54:06,880
task force a permanent office

3199
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:10,560
a a a position just as powerful

3200
01:54:14,870 --> 01:54:13,199
or close to it as the director of

3201
01:54:16,070 --> 01:54:14,880
national intelligence or someone who

3202
01:54:18,709 --> 01:54:16,080
reports to that

3203
01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:18,719
someone on the same level of you know a

3204
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:20,320
navy secretary

3205
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:23,520
where their job is to not look at

3206
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:25,760
nuclear war with north korea not to look

3207
01:54:30,470 --> 01:54:27,760
at civil war in south africa

3208
01:54:31,589 --> 01:54:30,480
but to look at this uap issue and

3209
01:54:34,149 --> 01:54:31,599
address it

3210
01:54:34,629 --> 01:54:34,159
and and investigate it and then report

3211
01:54:38,470 --> 01:54:34,639
on it

3212
01:54:40,310 --> 01:54:38,480
i mean that will be huge that means that

3213
01:54:41,189 --> 01:54:40,320
this topic is no longer going to get

3214
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:41,199
lost

3215
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:43,599
in the real world issues this is now

3216
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:45,920
this topic is now becoming one of those

3217
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:47,040
real world issues

3218
01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:50,080
and it's and it's awesome yeah it's

3219
01:54:53,189 --> 01:54:51,920
awesome we just gotta be patient

3220
01:54:54,950 --> 01:54:53,199
we just gotta chill a little bit we

3221
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:54,960
gotta take that chill pill and say okay

3222
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:57,520
let these let these things go to work

3223
01:55:00,950 --> 01:54:58,320
because

3224
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,960
always keep this in mind government is

3225
01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:02,320
slow

3226
01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:05,360
it's designed it's designed to

3227
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:08,400
be slow so the response to this

3228
01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:11,280
literally could take years could take i

3229
01:55:12,870 --> 01:55:12,480
don't think it's going to take years

3230
01:55:15,189 --> 01:55:12,880
though

3231
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:15,199
i think this is this office will be up

3232
01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:16,159
and running

3233
01:55:19,669 --> 01:55:18,239
by this time next year i really really

3234
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:19,679
do i mean this

3235
01:55:23,830 --> 01:55:22,560
they've got a plan this is a plan it is

3236
01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:23,840
called the plan

3237
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:25,599
you know yeah well and that's the thing

3238
01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:28,080
dude it's no longer a task force

3239
01:55:32,390 --> 01:55:30,800
the task was not completed um it was

3240
01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:32,400
completed in the sense that

3241
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:34,560
they gave the public what was requested

3242
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:35,840
of them but now

3243
01:55:39,030 --> 01:55:38,159
money and they ran out of money exactly

3244
01:55:40,870 --> 01:55:39,040
so now

3245
01:55:42,149 --> 01:55:40,880
the next steps i do want to bring this

3246
01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:42,159
up brian says

3247
01:55:46,229 --> 01:55:45,280
the ufo encounter and ken ross uh ufo

3248
01:55:49,270 --> 01:55:46,239
pipe or a u.s

3249
01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:49,280
pilot ufo pilot a u.s pilot disappeared

3250
01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:50,800
presumed dead with the object

3251
01:55:54,470 --> 01:55:53,360
i want to touch on this with you luis um

3252
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:54,480
in the report

3253
01:56:00,629 --> 01:55:57,840
we were told there were 11 cases of near

3254
01:56:01,669 --> 01:56:00,639
misses with pilots which doesn't seem

3255
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:01,679
like a lot but

3256
01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:03,760
that's what the public got i want to

3257
01:56:06,070 --> 01:56:05,440
know how many were in the classified

3258
01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:06,080
report

3259
01:56:11,189 --> 01:56:08,800
how many collisions were there we know

3260
01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:11,199
in ufo history that this has happened

3261
01:56:14,310 --> 01:56:13,199
that there have been near misses jeremy

3262
01:56:17,189 --> 01:56:14,320
corbell

3263
01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:17,199
and christopher mellon have even uh

3264
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:18,080
teased

3265
01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:20,880
that there might be video out there from

3266
01:56:25,510 --> 01:56:22,800
cockpits of ufos coming

3267
01:56:27,030 --> 01:56:25,520
right past the actual cockpit maybe

3268
01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:27,040
we'll see it maybe we won't i don't know

3269
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:27,760
but um

3270
01:56:32,870 --> 01:56:30,880
two things that is huge that there are

3271
01:56:33,350 --> 01:56:32,880
11 cases they were willing to share with

3272
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:33,360
us

3273
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:35,360
of near misses and that is a potential

3274
01:56:38,709 --> 01:56:37,360
threat no matter the motivation of the

3275
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:38,719
uap itself

3276
01:56:41,910 --> 01:56:40,639
it could have caused a problem or we

3277
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:41,920
could have caused a problem in our

3278
01:56:45,350 --> 01:56:42,800
reaction

3279
01:56:45,990 --> 01:56:45,360
to it the other thing um the report did

3280
01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:46,000
not mention

3281
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:49,199
whatsoever nuclear incidents

3282
01:56:52,709 --> 01:56:51,040
um what do you think do you think that

3283
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,719
was in the classified version

3284
01:56:56,310 --> 01:56:54,239
or do you think they even bothered

3285
01:56:59,189 --> 01:56:56,320
looking into that they had to they

3286
01:57:01,189 --> 01:56:59,199
had to because just because the the

3287
01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:01,199
correlation of both of those things

3288
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:04,080
is so apparent like that seems that's

3289
01:57:07,270 --> 01:57:04,800
definitely

3290
01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:07,280
something that if you want to give lou a

3291
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,960
little bit of flack for i guess you

3292
01:57:11,589 --> 01:57:10,719
could but then again lou didn't write

3293
01:57:13,109 --> 01:57:11,599
the report

3294
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:13,119
you know lou just gave the information

3295
01:57:16,629 --> 01:57:14,800
to the guys so they could write through

3296
01:57:18,550 --> 01:57:16,639
the report but the thing that we

3297
01:57:20,229 --> 01:57:18,560
definitely got a lot was

3298
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:20,239
there seems to be a connection between

3299
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:21,840
our nuclear capabilities

3300
01:57:25,830 --> 01:57:24,480
and these objects and that was nowhere

3301
01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:25,840
to be seen in the report so i think

3302
01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:27,280
you're right ryan i think that went to

3303
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,119
the classified level

3304
01:57:32,310 --> 01:57:31,599
um because it has to be part of this

3305
01:57:34,709 --> 01:57:32,320
story it just

3306
01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:34,719
absolutely has to be as far as the

3307
01:57:37,910 --> 01:57:35,360
threat

3308
01:57:39,350 --> 01:57:37,920
um look i understand what you're saying

3309
01:57:42,550 --> 01:57:39,360
i've never heard of the

3310
01:57:44,390 --> 01:57:42,560
the kinross uh ufo encounter uh where

3311
01:57:45,510 --> 01:57:44,400
the pilot disappeared i'd have to look

3312
01:57:49,510 --> 01:57:45,520
into that

3313
01:57:54,149 --> 01:57:49,520
um but dude there's been so many that

3314
01:57:56,310 --> 01:57:54,159
coin helicopter incident i mean how many

3315
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:56,320
let's just let's just speculate here for

3316
01:58:01,750 --> 01:57:58,080
a moment but let's just say

3317
01:58:02,790 --> 01:58:01,760
in the last 60 years how many pilots do

3318
01:58:05,189 --> 01:58:02,800
you think have been either

3319
01:58:07,430 --> 01:58:05,199
shot down or killed by an interaction

3320
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:07,440
with a uap

3321
01:58:10,629 --> 01:58:09,440
just speculating i mean how many let me

3322
01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:10,639
ask you this

3323
01:58:15,669 --> 01:58:13,199
how many stories have we heard of that

3324
01:58:20,390 --> 01:58:15,679
actually happening

3325
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:20,400
where pilots were killed uh god i don't

3326
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:23,119
know of anything yeah i don't know about

3327
01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:23,679
anything

3328
01:58:27,910 --> 01:58:25,840
i'm not definitively proven obviously

3329
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:27,920
right obviously right but let's

3330
01:58:31,510 --> 01:58:30,239
extrapolate that math and apply it to

3331
01:58:34,950 --> 01:58:31,520
the rest of it

3332
01:58:37,109 --> 01:58:34,960
you know let's just say theoretically

3333
01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:37,119
one pilot died every 10 years because of

3334
01:58:41,189 --> 01:58:38,800
an interaction with these things

3335
01:58:43,350 --> 01:58:41,199
so in the last 60 70 years that's seven

3336
01:58:45,990 --> 01:58:43,360
pilots

3337
01:58:47,589 --> 01:58:46,000
i know that sounds like i'm throwing

3338
01:58:47,990 --> 01:58:47,599
seven lives out the window like it

3339
01:58:51,910 --> 01:58:48,000
doesn't

3340
01:58:53,189 --> 01:58:51,920
matter but seven lives i mean

3341
01:58:54,790 --> 01:58:53,199
look at what just happened in florida

3342
01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:54,800
with that collapsed building there's

3343
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:56,159
more than seven people in there they're

3344
01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:57,199
probably dead

3345
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:59,440
um you know how many how many people

3346
01:59:03,189 --> 01:59:00,480
does a bomb

3347
01:59:04,950 --> 01:59:03,199
dropped in the wrong area kill how many

3348
01:59:07,669 --> 01:59:04,960
terrorists does that create

3349
01:59:08,310 --> 01:59:07,679
you know so that's what i'm saying those

3350
01:59:12,629 --> 01:59:08,320
things are

3351
01:59:15,430 --> 01:59:12,639
threats those things uh and and look

3352
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:15,440
if your definition of threat can change

3353
01:59:19,990 --> 01:59:17,040
so many different ways

3354
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:20,000
um you know i i think the united states

3355
01:59:26,709 --> 01:59:21,199
military uses

3356
01:59:29,669 --> 01:59:26,719
existential threat really frivolously

3357
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:29,679
um they they everything's a threat to

3358
01:59:31,750 --> 01:59:30,239
them

3359
01:59:33,910 --> 01:59:31,760
everything you know and that's how they

3360
01:59:35,830 --> 01:59:33,920
start wars all the time

3361
01:59:37,910 --> 01:59:35,840
um but there hasn't been an imminent

3362
01:59:41,350 --> 01:59:37,920
threat to the united states

3363
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:41,360
since the british like that was the last

3364
01:59:45,510 --> 01:59:43,360
imminent threat the united states have i

3365
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:45,520
mean maybe you could count the cold war

3366
01:59:49,830 --> 01:59:47,440
but there wasn't a fleet of russian

3367
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:49,840
ships off of the coast of cuba ready to

3368
01:59:52,870 --> 01:59:50,719
invade

3369
01:59:54,709 --> 01:59:52,880
uh the united states you know pearl

3370
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:54,719
harbor they did their thing and they

3371
01:59:59,750 --> 01:59:56,480
turned around and went back

3372
02:00:01,510 --> 01:59:59,760
um you know it there was

3373
02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:01,520
there's never been an imminent threat in

3374
02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:04,159
the united states in a long long time

3375
02:00:08,550 --> 02:00:06,960
um but we are an imminent threat all

3376
02:00:09,990 --> 02:00:08,560
over the place

3377
02:00:11,589 --> 02:00:10,000
so it just depends what's your

3378
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:11,599
definition of threat

3379
02:00:19,189 --> 02:00:16,080
um it's a tough one but i don't think

3380
02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:19,199
i i just don't think like

3381
02:00:23,270 --> 02:00:21,520
you know again look at what this navy

3382
02:00:23,830 --> 02:00:23,280
secretary was dealing with when these

3383
02:00:25,830 --> 02:00:23,840
uap

3384
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:25,840
issues were coming across as death civil

3385
02:00:29,189 --> 02:00:27,040
war nuclear

3386
02:00:30,070 --> 02:00:29,199
holocaust like all of these serious

3387
02:00:32,870 --> 02:00:30,080
serious

3388
02:00:33,510 --> 02:00:32,880
threats like direct threats to human

3389
02:00:35,910 --> 02:00:33,520
life

3390
02:00:37,669 --> 02:00:35,920
i think that's that's now if these

3391
02:00:40,229 --> 02:00:37,679
things were actually shooting down

3392
02:00:42,470 --> 02:00:40,239
f-16s if they were shooting down drones

3393
02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:42,480
if they were shutting off nuclear ships

3394
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:44,159
in the middle of the sea

3395
02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:47,280
just leaving them there stranded i think

3396
02:00:50,470 --> 02:00:49,760
this issue would immediately go right

3397
02:00:52,229 --> 02:00:50,480
above

3398
02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:52,239
all of those other issues that just

3399
02:00:55,910 --> 02:00:54,320
called but they're not doing that

3400
02:00:58,149 --> 02:00:55,920
they're not doing that you know so

3401
02:00:59,910 --> 02:00:58,159
that's why i think it's

3402
02:01:01,669 --> 02:00:59,920
it's not that they're not interested

3403
02:01:04,070 --> 02:01:01,679
it's just that it's not

3404
02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:04,080
posing a problem to a point where they

3405
02:01:06,709 --> 02:01:05,440
have to address it

3406
02:01:08,470 --> 02:01:06,719
you know again if these things are

3407
02:01:11,750 --> 02:01:08,480
displaying themselves

3408
02:01:14,470 --> 02:01:11,760
as as in some cases playful

3409
02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:14,480
you know or if they're flying close to

3410
02:01:18,149 --> 02:01:14,880
to

3411
02:01:21,430 --> 02:01:18,159
jets but nothing happens it's just uh

3412
02:01:22,310 --> 02:01:21,440
um uh too close for comfort kind of

3413
02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:22,320
thing

3414
02:01:28,390 --> 02:01:26,080
um again that's not you know a fleet of

3415
02:01:29,750 --> 02:01:28,400
russian warships 60 miles off this coast

3416
02:01:31,589 --> 02:01:29,760
of hawaii

3417
02:01:32,790 --> 02:01:31,599
it's not the same kind of threat it's

3418
02:01:36,550 --> 02:01:32,800
just not exactly

3419
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:36,560
um so yeah yep i i i completely agree

3420
02:01:39,189 --> 02:01:38,239
with you man it's not an immediate

3421
02:01:41,669 --> 02:01:39,199
threat as it were

3422
02:01:42,229 --> 02:01:41,679
and also that playful nature to it i

3423
02:01:46,390 --> 02:01:42,239
think

3424
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:46,400
uh is the reason why like they're

3425
02:01:50,629 --> 02:01:48,560
the military whether it's navy or air

3426
02:01:53,830 --> 02:01:50,639
force when they encounter these things

3427
02:01:56,310 --> 02:01:53,840
you know it's it's clearly alarming but

3428
02:01:58,310 --> 02:01:56,320
i think they're also curious like huh

3429
02:02:00,390 --> 02:01:58,320
why isn't it shooting at me why is it

3430
02:02:01,030 --> 02:02:00,400
like if it's a real threat why aren't we

3431
02:02:03,430 --> 02:02:01,040
having

3432
02:02:04,709 --> 02:02:03,440
you know uh uh why aren't we in combat

3433
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:04,719
right now with these things so

3434
02:02:08,950 --> 02:02:06,080
you do have to wonder especially with

3435
02:02:11,510 --> 02:02:08,960
all these drone swarms that have been

3436
02:02:12,310 --> 02:02:11,520
reported um what about that iranian

3437
02:02:15,109 --> 02:02:12,320
pilot right

3438
02:02:16,709 --> 02:02:15,119
who locked on to the sh to the object

3439
02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:16,719
and then as soon as he hit fire

3440
02:02:20,550 --> 02:02:18,159
everything shut down

3441
02:02:22,070 --> 02:02:20,560
and then once he lost all control

3442
02:02:23,510 --> 02:02:22,080
everything came back on

3443
02:02:25,430 --> 02:02:23,520
you know and then he was able to fly

3444
02:02:27,189 --> 02:02:25,440
away um you know

3445
02:02:29,430 --> 02:02:27,199
do you know what his biggest regret was

3446
02:02:31,990 --> 02:02:29,440
too man that he could not

3447
02:02:33,030 --> 02:02:32,000
was well that and not being able to

3448
02:02:35,270 --> 02:02:33,040
communicate with it

3449
02:02:36,790 --> 02:02:35,280
right like well i think it was like he

3450
02:02:37,750 --> 02:02:36,800
fired first instead of trying to

3451
02:02:40,149 --> 02:02:37,760
communicate first

3452
02:02:41,990 --> 02:02:40,159
exactly which is the problem her

3453
02:02:44,950 --> 02:02:42,000
reaction to these things

3454
02:02:45,270 --> 02:02:44,960
could be the actual threat um i think it

3455
02:02:46,870 --> 02:02:45,280
was

3456
02:02:48,870 --> 02:02:46,880
you know yeah he tried to fight shoot

3457
02:02:51,189 --> 02:02:48,880
first ask questions later when now

3458
02:02:52,629 --> 02:02:51,199
his biggest regret was um i wish i had

3459
02:02:55,189 --> 02:02:52,639
tried to communicate first

3460
02:02:56,149 --> 02:02:55,199
um oh that's let me let me actually

3461
02:02:58,629 --> 02:02:56,159
bring it back

3462
02:02:59,430 --> 02:02:58,639
that radio frequency thing we talked

3463
02:03:01,669 --> 02:02:59,440
about

3464
02:03:02,950 --> 02:03:01,679
earlier that was interesting in the

3465
02:03:05,189 --> 02:03:02,960
report did you

3466
02:03:06,070 --> 02:03:05,199
catch that we did we talked about that

3467
02:03:07,910 --> 02:03:06,080
aspect of it

3468
02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:07,920
and what do you think about that well if

3469
02:03:12,709 --> 02:03:09,599
my first

3470
02:03:15,750 --> 02:03:12,719
gut feeling was oh that just sounds like

3471
02:03:17,750 --> 02:03:15,760
an rf signal that either is helping

3472
02:03:18,790 --> 02:03:17,760
control the object you know like a radio

3473
02:03:22,229 --> 02:03:18,800
controlled object

3474
02:03:24,070 --> 02:03:22,239
like a drone or b that's

3475
02:03:26,709 --> 02:03:24,080
the type of signal that whatever that

3476
02:03:28,790 --> 02:03:26,719
object is is sending data back

3477
02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:28,800
to wherever its original starting point

3478
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:31,440
was so i think it's either data coming

3479
02:03:35,350 --> 02:03:32,320
in and out or

3480
02:03:40,470 --> 02:03:38,390
being collected

3481
02:03:42,310 --> 02:03:40,480
that's kind of how i took it as the rf

3482
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:42,320
signal um but i think

3483
02:03:46,149 --> 02:03:44,400
uh i think i can't remember what rather

3484
02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:46,159
said maybe he's in the chat he said

3485
02:03:50,629 --> 02:03:47,679
something along the lines of

3486
02:03:51,589 --> 02:03:50,639
you know that could also show that these

3487
02:03:54,629 --> 02:03:51,599
objects

3488
02:03:55,350 --> 02:03:54,639
um uh i can't remember what he said but

3489
02:03:57,430 --> 02:03:55,360
something along

3490
02:03:59,350 --> 02:03:57,440
like their field like their magnetic

3491
02:04:00,390 --> 02:03:59,360
fields could be producing these rf

3492
02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:00,400
signals

3493
02:04:05,750 --> 02:04:03,760
could be produced by

3494
02:04:07,910 --> 02:04:05,760
a lot of things so i found it

3495
02:04:11,669 --> 02:04:07,920
interesting but at the end of it i

3496
02:04:13,189 --> 02:04:11,679
i didn't it didn't sway me one way and

3497
02:04:16,629 --> 02:04:13,199
the other too much i just

3498
02:04:16,950 --> 02:04:16,639
i was like ah that's interesting um but

3499
02:04:21,189 --> 02:04:16,960
that

3500
02:04:22,470 --> 02:04:21,199
different ways it was very ambiguous the

3501
02:04:25,750 --> 02:04:22,480
way it was written

3502
02:04:27,270 --> 02:04:25,760
um but as was everything else yeah

3503
02:04:29,430 --> 02:04:27,280
but but i mean here's the thing right

3504
02:04:32,470 --> 02:04:29,440
like it's um

3505
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:32,480
you know well i can't remember i was

3506
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:33,199
gonna say something

3507
02:04:39,350 --> 02:04:36,320
in regards to the iranian pilot but but

3508
02:04:42,470 --> 02:04:39,360
here it is here it is if

3509
02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:42,480
let's say the navy knows about these

3510
02:04:45,030 --> 02:04:43,280
things right

3511
02:04:46,470 --> 02:04:45,040
i feel like it would be pretty common

3512
02:04:49,990 --> 02:04:46,480
knowledge

3513
02:04:50,550 --> 02:04:50,000
yeah don't chase them don't fire at them

3514
02:04:52,149 --> 02:04:50,560
it's

3515
02:04:53,910 --> 02:04:52,159
you're not going to catch them and

3516
02:04:57,109 --> 02:04:53,920
you're not going to lock onto them

3517
02:04:58,790 --> 02:04:57,119
just if you see them just play cool

3518
02:05:00,550 --> 02:04:58,800
i have a fee it's like an unwritten role

3519
02:05:02,870 --> 02:05:00,560
in baseball um

3520
02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:02,880
you know i think it's like ufos are sort

3521
02:05:06,229 --> 02:05:04,639
of that thing when it comes to f-16

3522
02:05:07,510 --> 02:05:06,239
fighter pilots i think they've heard the

3523
02:05:10,470 --> 02:05:07,520
stories i think

3524
02:05:11,750 --> 02:05:10,480
they may be even briefed on them at on

3525
02:05:13,990 --> 02:05:11,760
some level

3526
02:05:15,990 --> 02:05:14,000
um you know kind of like if you see one

3527
02:05:19,430 --> 02:05:16,000
of these things

3528
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:19,440
it's gonna happen from time to time

3529
02:05:22,709 --> 02:05:21,280
don't bother reporting it don't bother

3530
02:05:25,270 --> 02:05:22,719
chasing it don't bother

3531
02:05:27,109 --> 02:05:25,280
shooting at it i think that that has

3532
02:05:29,109 --> 02:05:27,119
probably changed too you're gonna see

3533
02:05:31,669 --> 02:05:29,119
these things from time to time

3534
02:05:33,109 --> 02:05:31,679
make sure you report it make sure you uh

3535
02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:33,119
talk about it make sure you

3536
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:35,840
document it um but don't try to chase it

3537
02:05:38,229 --> 02:05:37,199
and don't try to shoot it because you're

3538
02:05:39,589 --> 02:05:38,239
not you

3539
02:05:41,430 --> 02:05:39,599
we just can't we don't have the

3540
02:05:44,870 --> 02:05:41,440
capability um

3541
02:05:48,149 --> 02:05:44,880
you know so i that could be a cool

3542
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:48,159
shift in how you know pilots and

3543
02:05:52,629 --> 02:05:51,360
and um and security apparatuses deal

3544
02:05:54,390 --> 02:05:52,639
with this you know

3545
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:54,400
yep absolutely everyone's bringing up

3546
02:05:57,589 --> 02:05:55,679
the signature

3547
02:05:58,870 --> 02:05:57,599
management too which i thought was

3548
02:06:02,229 --> 02:05:58,880
pretty interesting too

3549
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:02,239
i can't even imagine like the sensor

3550
02:06:07,350 --> 02:06:04,400
data that the classified report had

3551
02:06:08,550 --> 02:06:07,360
also from like satellites and and

3552
02:06:10,149 --> 02:06:08,560
everything in between but what do you

3553
02:06:13,270 --> 02:06:10,159
make of the whole signature

3554
02:06:15,350 --> 02:06:13,280
management thing that it's um defying

3555
02:06:17,830 --> 02:06:15,360
a lot of the uh what we have now been

3556
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:17,840
told are the not defying but

3557
02:06:21,910 --> 02:06:20,239
doing the five observables as tim points

3558
02:06:23,669 --> 02:06:21,920
i just i want to see it

3559
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:23,679
you want to see it i want to see what's

3560
02:06:27,350 --> 02:06:25,360
fine observables i want to see them

3561
02:06:29,510 --> 02:06:27,360
displayed we just haven't seen it

3562
02:06:31,750 --> 02:06:29,520
like i haven't seen official video come

3563
02:06:33,109 --> 02:06:31,760
out and we've seen them online of course

3564
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:33,119
we don't know if some of these videos

3565
02:06:36,470 --> 02:06:33,760
are real

3566
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:36,480
i do i want to see an official dod maybe

3567
02:06:39,750 --> 02:06:37,360
video of an

3568
02:06:40,550 --> 02:06:39,760
object filmed with multiple instruments

3569
02:06:43,030 --> 02:06:40,560
turning

3570
02:06:43,750 --> 02:06:43,040
in a very high rate of speed to a point

3571
02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:43,760
was like

3572
02:06:47,109 --> 02:06:46,320
okay whoever's in that vehicle should be

3573
02:06:48,790 --> 02:06:47,119
crushed

3574
02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:48,800
you know we hear about the right angle

3575
02:06:55,109 --> 02:06:51,760
turns we hear about the low of uh

3576
02:06:57,189 --> 02:06:55,119
observability we hear about the um

3577
02:06:58,950 --> 02:06:57,199
the trans-medium aspect of these things

3578
02:07:02,229 --> 02:06:58,960
like i want to see

3579
02:07:03,030 --> 02:07:02,239
an object go from i do exactly what

3580
02:07:05,750 --> 02:07:03,040
fravor said

3581
02:07:07,350 --> 02:07:05,760
go from the ocean to 80 000 feet in the

3582
02:07:09,350 --> 02:07:07,360
sky maybe even farther

3583
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:09,360
and then right back down into the ocean

3584
02:07:13,510 --> 02:07:11,119
or just above it like

3585
02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:13,520
we have trans medium vehicles but

3586
02:07:17,270 --> 02:07:14,880
they're missiles they're not

3587
02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:17,280
things people sit in you know they're

3588
02:07:20,870 --> 02:07:18,960
not vehicles that people are

3589
02:07:22,310 --> 02:07:20,880
you know taking for a ride they're

3590
02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:22,320
they're unmanned

3591
02:07:26,470 --> 02:07:24,880
uh drones in some cases that can be

3592
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:26,480
launched from submarines and then

3593
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:28,480
fly in the sky and then come back down

3594
02:07:31,589 --> 02:07:29,920
to the water and be collected by the

3595
02:07:33,189 --> 02:07:31,599
submarine those things exist

3596
02:07:35,430 --> 02:07:33,199
those are those are real plans for

3597
02:07:37,589 --> 02:07:35,440
things like that but

3598
02:07:39,030 --> 02:07:37,599
not moving at the angles and at the

3599
02:07:42,310 --> 02:07:39,040
speeds that these pilots are

3600
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:42,320
saying and and uh and if it was top

3601
02:07:47,350 --> 02:07:44,480
secret craft like that that was

3602
02:07:49,109 --> 02:07:47,360
you know uh from our military pilots

3603
02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:49,119
wouldn't be talking about it

3604
02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:50,960
they just wouldn't they would know okay

3605
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:52,719
that's a top secret thing and no need to

3606
02:07:56,950 --> 02:07:53,679
say anything

3607
02:08:00,390 --> 02:07:56,960
there's just no there's no purpose um uh

3608
02:08:02,229 --> 02:08:00,400
but it was it was um

3609
02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:02,239
rather had said here in in regards to

3610
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:03,440
the rf he said

3611
02:08:07,510 --> 02:08:04,880
i was trying to draw a connection

3612
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:07,520
between the pileup or manipulation of

3613
02:08:10,709 --> 02:08:10,000
electromagnetic magnetic waves that are

3614
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:10,719
on

3615
02:08:15,910 --> 02:08:13,840
an alcubierre drive um so

3616
02:08:16,870 --> 02:08:15,920
you know this idea of an alcubierre

3617
02:08:19,270 --> 02:08:16,880
drive uh

3618
02:08:20,229 --> 02:08:19,280
a warp drive essentially and and what

3619
02:08:22,069 --> 02:08:20,239
sort of

3620
02:08:23,589 --> 02:08:22,079
rf signals might come off of that but he

3621
02:08:24,390 --> 02:08:23,599
also says i may have been grasping at

3622
02:08:25,830 --> 02:08:24,400
straws

3623
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:25,840
we'd love to know more about the r

3624
02:08:29,189 --> 02:08:28,000
signals and that's exactly what he said

3625
02:08:30,790 --> 02:08:29,199
we just need more data

3626
02:08:32,709 --> 02:08:30,800
we need more data and rather that's a

3627
02:08:35,669 --> 02:08:32,719
good point like we know that the navy

3628
02:08:39,990 --> 02:08:35,679
was looking into patents on warp drive

3629
02:08:43,270 --> 02:08:40,000
on uh anti-gravity uh vehicles so i mean

3630
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:43,280
again anything is possible um the whole

3631
02:08:47,750 --> 02:08:44,560
idea that a lot of this

3632
02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:47,760
isn't us technology i don't buy that for

3633
02:08:51,270 --> 02:08:49,920
a second i think some of it probably is

3634
02:08:52,790 --> 02:08:51,280
but they're not they're obviously not

3635
02:08:55,189 --> 02:08:52,800
going to come out and say that

3636
02:08:56,629 --> 02:08:55,199
to the public um because that's why it

3637
02:08:58,229 --> 02:08:56,639
remains in a black budget

3638
02:09:02,149 --> 02:08:58,239
or might be coming from the department

3639
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:02,159
of energy or something like that but um

3640
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:04,320
people are getting really hung up on oh

3641
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:06,000
it's this oh it's that

3642
02:09:09,830 --> 02:09:08,560
it's it's russian it's chinese it's

3643
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:09,840
unexplainable

3644
02:09:13,830 --> 02:09:13,280
it why can't it be all three why can't

3645
02:09:15,990 --> 02:09:13,840
it be

3646
02:09:17,270 --> 02:09:16,000
all three like it doesn't have to be one

3647
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:17,280
or the other it can be

3648
02:09:23,030 --> 02:09:20,880
all of those things that's okay that's

3649
02:09:24,229 --> 02:09:23,040
such a good point man well all right i'm

3650
02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:24,239
going over a little

3651
02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:27,199
two hours here so luis it's up to you

3652
02:09:29,669 --> 02:09:28,480
buddy if you want to stick around i

3653
02:09:31,910 --> 02:09:29,679
think what i'm gonna do

3654
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:31,920
and you tell me um if this is playing

3655
02:09:34,790 --> 02:09:33,040
russian roulette

3656
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:34,800
i might put the screen yard link in the

3657
02:09:38,550 --> 02:09:36,239
chat do it do

3658
02:09:39,910 --> 02:09:38,560
we have people if anyone wants to hop in

3659
02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:39,920
and give your two cents we probably

3660
02:09:43,510 --> 02:09:41,199
won't go too long

3661
02:09:45,430 --> 02:09:43,520
um if you guys do come in to talk with

3662
02:09:45,990 --> 02:09:45,440
us you're gonna be on camera just so you

3663
02:09:47,669 --> 02:09:46,000
know

3664
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:47,679
um i would love to hear from you guys

3665
02:09:51,750 --> 02:09:50,159
well you don't have to be on camera you

3666
02:09:52,229 --> 02:09:51,760
could just be audio if you're just your

3667
02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:52,239
voice

3668
02:09:55,510 --> 02:09:53,599
you can you could you could shut the

3669
02:09:57,669 --> 02:09:55,520
camera disable camera but what i always

3670
02:10:00,149 --> 02:09:57,679
tell people don't be naked

3671
02:10:02,069 --> 02:10:00,159
um and make sure you're on a wi-fi

3672
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:02,079
signal you have to be on a wi-fi signal

3673
02:10:05,350 --> 02:10:03,520
to join this if you're not on a wi-fi

3674
02:10:06,950 --> 02:10:05,360
signal we'll probably lose you

3675
02:10:08,870 --> 02:10:06,960
this is why i have you here man i didn't

3676
02:10:10,149 --> 02:10:08,880
even know that yeah there you go those

3677
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:10,159
are really the only things you need to

3678
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:11,679
know i say throw it in there dude there

3679
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:12,159
it is

3680
02:10:15,669 --> 02:10:15,360
know there's some friends yeah come on

3681
02:10:17,350 --> 02:10:15,679
in

3682
02:10:18,790 --> 02:10:17,360
if anyone would love that rather to see

3683
02:10:23,030 --> 02:10:18,800
rather oh man rather

3684
02:10:25,910 --> 02:10:23,040
uap uk is here yeah

3685
02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:25,920
and also uh if you guys want the super

3686
02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:28,639
chat is open you can also ask questions

3687
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:30,480
that we will answer for you

3688
02:10:33,910 --> 02:10:32,159
um and highlight your comments if you

3689
02:10:36,709 --> 02:10:33,920
want to help the show out we're there

3690
02:10:38,149 --> 02:10:36,719
also please go over to uh unidentified

3691
02:10:41,189 --> 02:10:38,159
celebrity review

3692
02:10:42,709 --> 02:10:41,199
subscribe like help them out too

3693
02:10:44,310 --> 02:10:42,719
i can't believe you guys do this five

3694
02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:44,320
days a week it's insane

3695
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:46,560
i don't know how you do it you you guys

3696
02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:47,599
are just the most

3697
02:10:50,709 --> 02:10:49,360
hard-working people out there right now

3698
02:10:52,390 --> 02:10:50,719
on this stuff oh we should we share the

3699
02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:52,400
load dude we share the load you know i

3700
02:10:56,069 --> 02:10:54,159
do my show monday wednesday friday mike

3701
02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:56,079
does his tuesdays and thursdays

3702
02:10:59,109 --> 02:10:58,560
so it's a great way to sort of like you

3703
02:11:01,109 --> 02:10:59,119
know

3704
02:11:02,629 --> 02:11:01,119
mondays i'm prepping the show and then i

3705
02:11:04,229 --> 02:11:02,639
kind of get to take a break and mike's

3706
02:11:05,830 --> 02:11:04,239
prepping the show for tuesdays

3707
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:05,840
and so on wednesday he gets to take a

3708
02:11:09,189 --> 02:11:07,280
break a little bit you know so it's a

3709
02:11:12,149 --> 02:11:09,199
good flow we got a good thing

3710
02:11:12,790 --> 02:11:12,159
um it's going to be it's just going to

3711
02:11:14,470 --> 02:11:12,800
yeah

3712
02:11:15,990 --> 02:11:14,480
it's going to get bigger and better the

3713
02:11:19,990 --> 02:11:16,000
more we do it

3714
02:11:22,629 --> 02:11:20,000
because who do you got coming up

3715
02:11:23,270 --> 02:11:22,639
oh that's a good question because well i

3716
02:11:25,830 --> 02:11:23,280
got dan

3717
02:11:27,350 --> 02:11:25,840
warren coming up uh and if you guys

3718
02:11:31,270 --> 02:11:27,360
don't know dan warren he does an

3719
02:11:35,189 --> 02:11:31,280
awesome um uh

3720
02:11:38,870 --> 02:11:35,199
not snapchat what is it the uh

3721
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:38,880
what's that other app that uh tick tock

3722
02:11:42,310 --> 02:11:40,719
tick tock yeah he's got i think the

3723
02:11:45,030 --> 02:11:42,320
biggest uap tick tock

3724
02:11:46,709 --> 02:11:45,040
account out there um he was on the ufo

3725
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:46,719
garage podcast when they had louis

3726
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:48,800
lozando on he's just a cool dude

3727
02:11:51,910 --> 02:11:50,320
um someone i've been wanting to talk to

3728
02:11:53,189 --> 02:11:51,920
i think what he's doing on tick tock is

3729
02:11:54,390 --> 02:11:53,199
amazing i also want to get some tick

3730
02:11:56,790 --> 02:11:54,400
tock advice from him

3731
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:56,800
um on wednesday we're doing our

3732
02:11:59,990 --> 02:11:58,320
skinwalker ranch review

3733
02:12:02,229 --> 02:12:00,000
we had mcclellan you were in there as

3734
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:02,239
well which was cool

3735
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:03,520
that was fun so we'll be doing that

3736
02:12:06,950 --> 02:12:05,119
again on wednesday and then friday i'm

3737
02:12:10,310 --> 02:12:06,960
not sure who we have yet i

3738
02:12:12,149 --> 02:12:10,320
think we might have

3739
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:12,159
kent bai who was on our show yesterday

3740
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:13,760
philosopher and journalist

3741
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:15,440
and we're gonna have him have a little

3742
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:17,119
debate with mick west

3743
02:12:23,510 --> 02:12:21,040
um two really smart guys coming to the

3744
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:23,520
table and having a discussion on this

3745
02:12:27,189 --> 02:12:25,840
you know could be fun um i also been

3746
02:12:28,390 --> 02:12:27,199
talking to sean cahill trying to get

3747
02:12:31,510 --> 02:12:28,400
sean on the show

3748
02:12:35,030 --> 02:12:31,520
um and then next month let's see i know

3749
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:35,040
uh oh yeah we got

3750
02:12:39,830 --> 02:12:38,400
creepy pete from uh from i don't know if

3751
02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:39,840
you've seen this show called the creepy

3752
02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:41,280
little book

3753
02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:45,119
oh okay this guy has been doing shows

3754
02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:46,480
forever

3755
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:49,520
but he does shows on the uh the esoteric

3756
02:12:54,229 --> 02:12:51,119
he's so he'll talk he'll do show

3757
02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:54,239
it's my guiltiest pleasure ryan

3758
02:12:57,510 --> 02:12:56,880
like he'll do shows on vampires he'll do

3759
02:13:08,229 --> 02:12:57,520
shows

3760
02:13:11,109 --> 02:13:08,239
anything esoteric anything mythological

3761
02:13:12,310 --> 02:13:11,119
this guy is all over and so yeah he's

3762
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:12,320
going to come on the show he's going to

3763
02:13:16,069 --> 02:13:13,360
talk about his showing

3764
02:13:16,870 --> 02:13:16,079
and and and his views i just dude the

3765
02:13:20,229 --> 02:13:16,880
dude is so

3766
02:13:20,790 --> 02:13:20,239
cool um so so yeah so we got creepy pete

3767
02:13:23,030 --> 02:13:20,800
coming

3768
02:13:23,990 --> 02:13:23,040
pretty soon uh and then we'll see man i

3769
02:13:27,750 --> 02:13:24,000
mean my i

3770
02:13:28,470 --> 02:13:27,760
i don't i'm not at a point yet where i

3771
02:13:30,629 --> 02:13:28,480
can

3772
02:13:32,790 --> 02:13:30,639
plan months in advance who's coming on

3773
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:32,800
the show it's just so busy

3774
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:36,719
i'm literally finding guests the week

3775
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:39,119
ju the week either before or the week of

3776
02:13:43,510 --> 02:13:40,480
the show

3777
02:13:45,910 --> 02:13:43,520
i get it man well hey hey we've got

3778
02:13:48,470 --> 02:13:45,920
three guests that can potentially come

3779
02:13:50,950 --> 02:13:48,480
on unidentified celebrity reviews so

3780
02:13:53,030 --> 02:13:50,960
i'm gonna bring you guys in right now

3781
02:13:56,149 --> 02:13:53,040
let's welcome

3782
02:13:58,629 --> 02:13:56,159
invisible night school tim what's up

3783
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:58,639
and alan what's going on guys hey hey hi

3784
02:14:02,229 --> 02:14:00,239
nice how's it going everybody

3785
02:14:03,669 --> 02:14:02,239
cheers everyone good thank you for

3786
02:14:06,310 --> 02:14:03,679
watching and hopping in here

3787
02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:06,320
guys um also thank you to elias for the

3788
02:14:08,709 --> 02:14:06,800
uh

3789
02:14:10,310 --> 02:14:08,719
the super chat there i'm gonna ask all

3790
02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:10,320
you guys this if you don't mind

3791
02:14:13,350 --> 02:14:12,320
uh before i get your thoughts on the the

3792
02:14:15,350 --> 02:14:13,360
uap report

3793
02:14:17,350 --> 02:14:15,360
um elias wants to know since the

3794
02:14:18,709 --> 02:14:17,360
acknowledgement of ufos uap could this

3795
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:18,719
also give some credence

3796
02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:21,679
to other unexplained paranormal events

3797
02:14:24,470 --> 02:14:23,440
ellen let's go with you first since you

3798
02:14:26,310 --> 02:14:24,480
literally host

3799
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:26,320
the paranormal now podcast would you

3800
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:27,920
mind uh telling us a little of your

3801
02:14:31,270 --> 02:14:29,119
thoughts on that

3802
02:14:32,470 --> 02:14:31,280
um i think there's two parts to that i

3803
02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:32,480
think that there are people out there

3804
02:14:37,109 --> 02:14:34,560
who are on the fence

3805
02:14:38,390 --> 02:14:37,119
when they see this report or as cheryl

3806
02:14:39,350 --> 02:14:38,400
costa says it's really more of an

3807
02:14:42,310 --> 02:14:39,360
assessment

3808
02:14:43,990 --> 02:14:42,320
um that i think it does give some

3809
02:14:45,030 --> 02:14:44,000
credence i think it'll take those people

3810
02:14:46,310 --> 02:14:45,040
who are kind of

3811
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:46,320
flirting with the idea that

3812
02:14:49,669 --> 02:14:48,719
extraterrestrials exist for those people

3813
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:49,679
i think it

3814
02:14:53,350 --> 02:14:51,520
will be a yes maybe there's even more

3815
02:14:54,470 --> 02:14:53,360
than that maybe there are actually alien

3816
02:14:57,030 --> 02:14:54,480
abductions

3817
02:14:58,629 --> 02:14:57,040
you know maybe these reports about you

3818
02:15:00,310 --> 02:14:58,639
know strange metaphysical

3819
02:15:02,149 --> 02:15:00,320
encounters while on psychedelics are

3820
02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:02,159
more than just you know

3821
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:04,000
imaginations but visitations of

3822
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:06,719
something so i think that'll happen

3823
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:10,000
but um i think most people what the

3824
02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:10,880
report does

3825
02:15:18,390 --> 02:15:14,480
very well in my opinion is that it

3826
02:15:20,709 --> 02:15:18,400
it does legitimize the study

3827
02:15:22,310 --> 02:15:20,719
and so i think that's far more important

3828
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:22,320
than cracking open the door to the

3829
02:15:26,069 --> 02:15:23,040
paranormal

3830
02:15:27,669 --> 02:15:26,079
at large um but that's that's a step in

3831
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:27,679
the right direction because

3832
02:15:30,790 --> 02:15:29,920
once you fully legitimize the

3833
02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:30,800
entertainment

3834
02:15:36,790 --> 02:15:34,480
of the exotic um you're one step closer

3835
02:15:38,390 --> 02:15:36,800
to to having that next conversation i

3836
02:15:39,189 --> 02:15:38,400
think we're still a few years away from

3837
02:15:41,750 --> 02:15:39,199
that

3838
02:15:43,510 --> 02:15:41,760
um but yeah i mean you know the guests

3839
02:15:44,790 --> 02:15:43,520
that i have on paranormal now

3840
02:15:46,390 --> 02:15:44,800
you know i speak to a lot of

3841
02:15:47,990 --> 02:15:46,400
experiencers and abductees and

3842
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:48,000
contactees um

3843
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:50,560
and i i do want their story to be taken

3844
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:51,760
more seriously

3845
02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:54,400
um so for that group i think this is a

3846
02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:55,760
little helpful

3847
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:58,719
um but otherwise it's it's just

3848
02:16:04,310 --> 02:16:00,400
conservative

3849
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:04,320
enough right to not to not go that far

3850
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:07,119
you know exactly yeah baby steps again

3851
02:16:10,550 --> 02:16:08,320
like we're in

3852
02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:10,560
a paradigm right now where the us

3853
02:16:12,709 --> 02:16:12,320
government is acknowledging ufos are

3854
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:12,719
real

3855
02:16:15,910 --> 02:16:13,920
and that we have to continue looking

3856
02:16:17,270 --> 02:16:15,920
into it i know similar things have been

3857
02:16:19,750 --> 02:16:17,280
said in the past but

3858
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:19,760
um we're we're at a point we're at a

3859
02:16:22,390 --> 02:16:20,560
point right now

3860
02:16:24,709 --> 02:16:22,400
where we need to move forward with this

3861
02:16:27,270 --> 02:16:24,719
topic both from a government standpoint

3862
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:27,280
and as the public um so yeah let's get

3863
02:16:30,310 --> 02:16:28,960
uh invisible night school thanks for

3864
02:16:32,230 --> 02:16:30,320
joining us my man what uh

3865
02:16:33,589 --> 02:16:32,240
what do you think about the idea of um

3866
02:16:36,070 --> 02:16:33,599
the paranormal

3867
02:16:37,750 --> 02:16:36,080
getting involved with all of this well

3868
02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:37,760
uh can you hear me

3869
02:16:42,309 --> 02:16:40,800
yes okay cool it's it's hard uh i

3870
02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:42,319
mentioned in the chat earlier that i'm

3871
02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:43,599
coming from

3872
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:45,599
being a debunker for a really long time

3873
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:47,280
um like actively

3874
02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:49,519
i collaborated with like ben radford and

3875
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:50,719
uh

3876
02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:53,519
yeah whatever doesn't matter i've moved

3877
02:17:00,950 --> 02:16:54,240
on

3878
02:17:02,389 --> 02:17:00,960
kind of say that like you know yeah this

3879
02:17:04,230 --> 02:17:02,399
could be real and then

3880
02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:04,240
that gives the impression that we don't

3881
02:17:08,629 --> 02:17:06,880
maybe have the firmest grasp on reality

3882
02:17:11,750 --> 02:17:08,639
that we thought we did right

3883
02:17:12,629 --> 02:17:11,760
so who's to say we're not in the like

3884
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:12,639
tyconian

3885
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:15,679
solar system model of reality acceptance

3886
02:17:19,110 --> 02:17:17,599
so sure yeah that opens up the door for

3887
02:17:20,230 --> 02:17:19,120
other things and

3888
02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:20,240
you know maybe that's under that

3889
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:21,920
category of high strangeness that we've

3890
02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:24,000
heard about before alien abductions i

3891
02:17:26,389 --> 02:17:25,359
know people have linked bigfoot with

3892
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:26,399
ufos

3893
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:30,240
i'm not there but just the implications

3894
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:31,439
that like yes there are

3895
02:17:35,589 --> 02:17:33,760
objects there's nothing explicitly

3896
02:17:37,110 --> 02:17:35,599
extraterrestrial about them but

3897
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:37,120
it's a strange occurrence happening

3898
02:17:40,950 --> 02:17:39,120
right so

3899
02:17:43,030 --> 02:17:40,960
i mean yeah that'll that does open up a

3900
02:17:44,549 --> 02:17:43,040
doorway i'm not i'm not ready to say

3901
02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:44,559
that like oh yeah i believe in ghosts

3902
02:17:51,830 --> 02:17:50,950
it tracks right it tracks a little bit

3903
02:17:53,830 --> 02:17:51,840
absolutely

3904
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:53,840
i don't know it's it's paradigm changing

3905
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:54,960
just the release of that report

3906
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:55,599
yesterday

3907
02:17:58,870 --> 02:17:58,080
i was expecting condom 2.0 you know what

3908
02:18:01,589 --> 02:17:58,880
i mean

3909
02:18:03,509 --> 02:18:01,599
and i was i was you know refreshing on

3910
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:03,519
twitter the entire time and that was the

3911
02:18:05,830 --> 02:18:05,359
reaction of like half the people on

3912
02:18:07,429 --> 02:18:05,840
there

3913
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:07,439
like oh this was [\h__\h] this was

3914
02:18:11,110 --> 02:18:09,280
nothing and

3915
02:18:12,629 --> 02:18:11,120
maybe that comes from at people's

3916
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:12,639
expectations of the report but

3917
02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:15,679
yeah i was i was shocked by it i yeah my

3918
02:18:17,750 --> 02:18:16,960
wife was sitting across from me i was

3919
02:18:26,309 --> 02:18:17,760
like

3920
02:18:28,469 --> 02:18:26,319
this is huge

3921
02:18:29,589 --> 02:18:28,479
i think we all had that moment yeah it's

3922
02:18:30,629 --> 02:18:29,599
not a question anymore

3923
02:18:32,790 --> 02:18:30,639
it's like it's like when you're

3924
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:32,800
constantly denied something

3925
02:18:35,830 --> 02:18:34,080
when you finally get a little bit of

3926
02:18:37,270 --> 02:18:35,840
something you're excited but the person

3927
02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:37,280
who never cared in the first place

3928
02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:39,679
right like oh yeah yeah i've tried to

3929
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:40,880
get her to care but

3930
02:18:44,950 --> 02:18:43,280
well he was he was something funny and

3931
02:18:46,549 --> 02:18:44,960
and ryan maybe we'll talk off air about

3932
02:18:47,110 --> 02:18:46,559
this but i think a mutual friend of ours

3933
02:18:50,629 --> 02:18:47,120
had

3934
02:18:54,070 --> 02:18:50,639
with him the other day and it was

3935
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:54,080
um the other day he'd gone to a barbecue

3936
02:18:57,509 --> 02:18:56,000
and everybody at the barbecue is a

3937
02:19:00,070 --> 02:18:57,519
family barbecue everybody's like

3938
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:00,080
what's the scoop you know tell us what's

3939
02:19:03,509 --> 02:19:02,240
going on with these ufos and he's like

3940
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:03,519
you know what this is actually a pretty

3941
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:05,120
good time for an experiment let me try

3942
02:19:08,230 --> 02:19:06,399
something here

3943
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:08,240
so he starts saying oh well you know

3944
02:19:11,270 --> 02:19:10,000
i've heard there's 15 different races

3945
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:11,280
and that they're visiting us

3946
02:19:15,830 --> 02:19:14,160
from all different planets and um and

3947
02:19:17,750 --> 02:19:15,840
that they're coming down and this is

3948
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:17,760
what they use this is their power source

3949
02:19:22,230 --> 02:19:19,519
all sorts of crazy [\h__\h]

3950
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:22,240
and everyone every single one of them

3951
02:19:27,349 --> 02:19:22,960
was like

3952
02:19:30,469 --> 02:19:27,359
oh okay yeah that's believable right

3953
02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:30,479
and then he said and then i also heard

3954
02:19:34,070 --> 02:19:33,040
that the government is running some

3955
02:19:35,830 --> 02:19:34,080
programs

3956
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:35,840
uh and they're doing something called

3957
02:19:39,110 --> 02:19:37,519
remote viewing where they're conscious

3958
02:19:41,030 --> 02:19:39,120
subconsciously trying to reach out and

3959
02:19:43,750 --> 02:19:41,040
communicate with these things

3960
02:19:44,790 --> 02:19:43,760
and immediately everybody's like nah

3961
02:19:48,150 --> 02:19:44,800
don't buy it

3962
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:48,160
you know like can't nope it's like well

3963
02:19:51,429 --> 02:19:48,960
wait a second

3964
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:51,439
yeah you just bought that there were 15

3965
02:19:56,230 --> 02:19:53,680
different races visiting our planet but

3966
02:19:58,710 --> 02:19:56,240
the second i discussed remote viewing it

3967
02:20:00,550 --> 02:19:58,720
just doesn't ring true to you

3968
02:20:02,309 --> 02:20:00,560
yeah you know and that's that's the

3969
02:20:04,389 --> 02:20:02,319
paradox we're living in right now

3970
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:04,399
is that people don't really understand

3971
02:20:08,150 --> 02:20:05,760
that these things can be

3972
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:08,160
one and the same and so to answer that

3973
02:20:11,590 --> 02:20:09,359
question does this

3974
02:20:14,150 --> 02:20:11,600
does this give some credence to other

3975
02:20:17,830 --> 02:20:14,160
unexplained paranormal events

3976
02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:17,840
yes yes it does it does i get it

3977
02:20:24,230 --> 02:20:20,880
it sh it tells us that there are

3978
02:20:27,429 --> 02:20:24,240
a big subset of filters that we

3979
02:20:29,270 --> 02:20:27,439
can't see in yet you know and

3980
02:20:31,510 --> 02:20:29,280
and again louis lozano talks about

3981
02:20:32,469 --> 02:20:31,520
imagine if we had these magical goggles

3982
02:20:34,710 --> 02:20:32,479
that could filter

3983
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:34,720
everything where we could see everything

3984
02:20:39,270 --> 02:20:37,040
that is hitting and bombarding us

3985
02:20:42,389 --> 02:20:39,280
right people wouldn't be overwhelmed i

3986
02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:44,150
yeah hi ryan thanks for having me hi

3987
02:20:48,550 --> 02:20:46,479
travis travis how's it going my man

3988
02:20:49,990 --> 02:20:48,560
good how are you very good very good

3989
02:20:51,910 --> 02:20:50,000
good um so

3990
02:20:53,349 --> 02:20:51,920
one of one of your colleagues uh andy

3991
02:20:55,510 --> 02:20:53,359
from that ufo podcast

3992
02:20:56,710 --> 02:20:55,520
actually mentioned this to lou in his

3993
02:20:57,990 --> 02:20:56,720
interview with him and i know you guys

3994
02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:58,000
have probably listened to this and it's

3995
02:21:01,030 --> 02:20:59,280
one of my favorites uh

3996
02:21:02,790 --> 02:21:01,040
next to yours ryan that you did with uh

3997
02:21:05,670 --> 02:21:02,800
lou as well but um

3998
02:21:07,190 --> 02:21:05,680
andy asked lou about you know the fact

3999
02:21:09,270 --> 02:21:07,200
that this phenomenon comes with somewhat

4000
02:21:11,910 --> 02:21:09,280
of a sticky portfolio

4001
02:21:12,710 --> 02:21:11,920
and i think his answer really cleared it

4002
02:21:15,429 --> 02:21:12,720
up for me that

4003
02:21:16,870 --> 02:21:15,439
yes there is some parallel uh you know

4004
02:21:19,270 --> 02:21:16,880
there are some parallel findings

4005
02:21:20,550 --> 02:21:19,280
there is some credence to the fact that

4006
02:21:22,790 --> 02:21:20,560
this is going to open the gate

4007
02:21:24,070 --> 02:21:22,800
to the possibility of other phenomena

4008
02:21:26,870 --> 02:21:24,080
now whether or not they're

4009
02:21:28,469 --> 02:21:26,880
you know implicitly related i don't know

4010
02:21:29,349 --> 02:21:28,479
i don't think too much about that but i

4011
02:21:31,510 --> 02:21:29,359
do think that

4012
02:21:33,830 --> 02:21:31,520
um the fact that we have someone like

4013
02:21:35,190 --> 02:21:33,840
elizondo and or chris mellon talking

4014
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:35,200
about this seriously

4015
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:37,840
is just fascinating and you know i also

4016
02:21:40,550 --> 02:21:39,120
have to say that yesterday while i was

4017
02:21:42,950 --> 02:21:40,560
waiting for the ufo report to come out

4018
02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:42,960
or the uap task force report to come out

4019
02:21:46,469 --> 02:21:45,280
i i literally sat there with a glass of

4020
02:21:48,630 --> 02:21:46,479
whiskey and

4021
02:21:50,389 --> 02:21:48,640
my wife was like are you gonna be okay

4022
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:50,399
is everything okay

4023
02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:53,040
and i've had that moment so often lately

4024
02:21:58,790 --> 02:21:55,439
and uh i i only get 15 minutes of ufo

4025
02:22:02,150 --> 02:21:58,800
talk now in my household every day

4026
02:22:06,150 --> 02:22:04,070
i was gonna say you just blew that a lot

4027
02:22:07,510 --> 02:22:06,160
of time today

4028
02:22:09,429 --> 02:22:07,520
you might not be able to talk about it

4029
02:22:12,230 --> 02:22:09,439
for the next three weeks yeah

4030
02:22:13,750 --> 02:22:12,240
yeah i i mean much like uh you know a

4031
02:22:15,990 --> 02:22:13,760
lot of our friends and partners and

4032
02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:16,000
and spouses she's wonderful but at the

4033
02:22:19,030 --> 02:22:17,040
same time it's uh

4034
02:22:20,230 --> 02:22:19,040
it's something that you know invisible

4035
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:20,240
night school to your point

4036
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:21,520
you have to be careful how much you talk

4037
02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:23,200
about it and uh who you're talking to

4038
02:22:25,990 --> 02:22:24,000
about it because it's

4039
02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:26,000
really received differently by everybody

4040
02:22:29,510 --> 02:22:27,760
sure yeah exactly

4041
02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:29,520
let me ask you this though i'm sorry i'm

4042
02:22:34,630 --> 02:22:31,840
sorry can i ask you anything

4043
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:34,640
don't you think that is changing though

4044
02:22:38,630 --> 02:22:35,120
like

4045
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:38,640
station the other day and there was a

4046
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:40,240
wendy's connected to it these two guys

4047
02:22:42,950 --> 02:22:41,680
are sitting there having their frosties

4048
02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:42,960
eating their fries

4049
02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:45,760
and they're talking about ufos they're

4050
02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:46,560
talking about

4051
02:22:50,070 --> 02:22:49,439
you know like what's going on and i just

4052
02:22:51,670 --> 02:22:50,080
sat there

4053
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:51,680
and i listened to them and the

4054
02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:53,200
conspiracy theories that started coming

4055
02:22:56,550 --> 02:22:54,160
out of this guy's mouth

4056
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:56,560
crazy but the fact that they're talking

4057
02:23:01,429 --> 02:22:58,399
about it i was like man this is

4058
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:01,439
this is different this is different yeah

4059
02:23:05,349 --> 02:23:04,560
it's it's it's phenomenal it is it's

4060
02:23:06,950 --> 02:23:05,359
unbelievable

4061
02:23:08,550 --> 02:23:06,960
honestly guys you know until three or

4062
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:08,560
four years ago i never thought that i

4063
02:23:11,349 --> 02:23:10,160
would live through this kind of time

4064
02:23:13,910 --> 02:23:11,359
this is something i've been interested

4065
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:13,920
in since i was 13 14 years old

4066
02:23:17,830 --> 02:23:16,560
and this is really not anything that i

4067
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:17,840
thought i'd be talking about my adult

4068
02:23:21,750 --> 02:23:19,120
life let alone to my wife

4069
02:23:23,510 --> 02:23:21,760
to my kids to my friends to my family

4070
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:23,520
openly

4071
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:26,240
you know this backed credence this this

4072
02:23:30,070 --> 02:23:27,840
you know verifiable

4073
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:30,080
uh you know providence that's amazing

4074
02:23:35,270 --> 02:23:32,000
it's like seriously amazing and

4075
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:35,280
i you know i i get overwhelmed often

4076
02:23:39,349 --> 02:23:37,680
uh just by that feeling and by knowing

4077
02:23:40,870 --> 02:23:39,359
it so i i'm right there with you guys i

4078
02:23:43,110 --> 02:23:40,880
think it's really important to

4079
02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:43,120
have this conversation with everyone but

4080
02:23:46,710 --> 02:23:44,960
especially with people who are skeptical

4081
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:46,720
and who remain skeptical and who are

4082
02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:47,920
going to be steadfast in their

4083
02:23:50,790 --> 02:23:49,520
conversation with you who can critically

4084
02:23:53,349 --> 02:23:50,800
think about this stuff

4085
02:23:54,150 --> 02:23:53,359
um and people you know evolve from all

4086
02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:54,160
walks of life

4087
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:55,600
so i'm i'm right there with you i think

4088
02:24:00,469 --> 02:23:58,240
that's that's a really keen observation

4089
02:24:01,750 --> 02:24:00,479
well i could say this tim a year and a

4090
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:01,760
half ago

4091
02:24:05,429 --> 02:24:04,640
i was an actor in los angeles i still am

4092
02:24:07,429 --> 02:24:05,439
but

4093
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:07,439
like this isn't doing me any favors as

4094
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:08,800
an actor

4095
02:24:12,950 --> 02:24:10,720
i'm not i'm not getting any more parts

4096
02:24:14,950 --> 02:24:12,960
because i started a ufo channel you know

4097
02:24:16,150 --> 02:24:14,960
i'm talking about this because it's

4098
02:24:18,870 --> 02:24:16,160
become socially

4099
02:24:20,630 --> 02:24:18,880
acceptable to talk about it and to be

4100
02:24:22,469 --> 02:24:20,640
honest with you maybe not everyone is on

4101
02:24:23,349 --> 02:24:22,479
the same page socially speaking but at

4102
02:24:26,790 --> 02:24:23,359
this point i don't

4103
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:26,800
give a [\h__\h] i do not care oh look at

4104
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:28,240
that kitty um

4105
02:24:31,349 --> 02:24:30,800
i just i don't i don't care i don't care

4106
02:24:33,830 --> 02:24:31,359
anymore

4107
02:24:34,550 --> 02:24:33,840
like either you're gonna here's the

4108
02:24:36,469 --> 02:24:34,560
thing

4109
02:24:41,349 --> 02:24:36,479
if you're not talking about it today you

4110
02:24:46,070 --> 02:24:44,389
you tomorrow yesterday i i woke up to uh

4111
02:24:48,469 --> 02:24:46,080
something on my newsfeed on reddit on

4112
02:24:50,230 --> 02:24:48,479
you know our ufos i was looking through

4113
02:24:51,990 --> 02:24:50,240
um just random posts and there was an

4114
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:52,000
update from a washington post reporter

4115
02:24:55,670 --> 02:24:53,280
that had solicited

4116
02:24:56,870 --> 02:24:55,680
um for information from redditors uh

4117
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:56,880
about 10 days ago

4118
02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:58,880
and i opened up his article and the

4119
02:25:01,990 --> 02:25:00,000
email i sent him

4120
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:02,000
was quoted so i'm adding to the

4121
02:25:06,950 --> 02:25:04,160
conversation

4122
02:25:07,670 --> 02:25:06,960
and that made my day you know and like

4123
02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:07,680
that article

4124
02:25:12,710 --> 02:25:10,880
to everybody i know um look

4125
02:25:14,630 --> 02:25:12,720
you know i'm quoted in this and and uh

4126
02:25:15,830 --> 02:25:14,640
he took my story and he kind of took my

4127
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:15,840
interest and

4128
02:25:19,670 --> 02:25:18,720
my uh you know feelings about uh our

4129
02:25:22,230 --> 02:25:19,680
ufos and

4130
02:25:23,429 --> 02:25:22,240
and uh put in his article and so it's

4131
02:25:23,990 --> 02:25:23,439
like you're saying it's really important

4132
02:25:25,670 --> 02:25:24,000
that we contribute

4133
02:25:26,790 --> 02:25:25,680
to this conversation in any way we can

4134
02:25:27,750 --> 02:25:26,800
you guys are doing a huge service

4135
02:25:30,230 --> 02:25:27,760
through your podcast

4136
02:25:31,190 --> 02:25:30,240
i mean look what we're doing right now

4137
02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:31,200
what's up

4138
02:25:34,309 --> 02:25:33,439
look at what we're doing right now yeah

4139
02:25:39,030 --> 02:25:34,319
yeah i've

4140
02:25:41,510 --> 02:25:39,040
never i've never met any of you guys

4141
02:25:43,429 --> 02:25:41,520
we're having a wonderful discussion on

4142
02:25:46,070 --> 02:25:43,439
this and we've never met each other

4143
02:25:46,550 --> 02:25:46,080
i know it's great what i love about this

4144
02:25:48,469 --> 02:25:46,560
topic

4145
02:25:49,990 --> 02:25:48,479
yeah travis travis how about my man what

4146
02:25:52,309 --> 02:25:50,000
are your general thoughts about all this

4147
02:25:53,190 --> 02:25:52,319
yeah okay so tim back to your previous

4148
02:25:54,309 --> 02:25:53,200
comment

4149
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:54,319
you're always going to have the mick

4150
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:56,160
quest you're always going to have this

4151
02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:57,920
the seth jostax

4152
02:26:03,110 --> 02:26:00,240
who said you remember he said he will

4153
02:26:05,270 --> 02:26:03,120
not believe in ufos or uaps

4154
02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:05,280
until he sees an entire wing of the

4155
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:06,319
smithsonian

4156
02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:08,319
dedicated to it you remember that yeah

4157
02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:09,760
yeah yeah yeah i mean

4158
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:11,280
you're always going to have those guys

4159
02:26:15,349 --> 02:26:13,200
with their ostrich head in the sand

4160
02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:15,359
and they don't want to hear it but i

4161
02:26:18,389 --> 02:26:16,319
think

4162
02:26:20,309 --> 02:26:18,399
even as lackluster as this report was

4163
02:26:21,750 --> 02:26:20,319
which was about what i expected

4164
02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:21,760
i really i mean i'd love to see the

4165
02:26:25,990 --> 02:26:24,000
congressional report honestly

4166
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:26,000
i mean what did they get to hear yes

4167
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:27,600
right i mean we get to hear the nine

4168
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:28,160
page

4169
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:30,160
piece of it i'd love to see what they

4170
02:26:33,510 --> 02:26:31,600
get they got here

4171
02:26:36,230 --> 02:26:33,520
yeah i actually kind of wonder like

4172
02:26:38,870 --> 02:26:36,240
going back to the paranormal end of this

4173
02:26:40,070 --> 02:26:38,880
what do you think about um so physics

4174
02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:40,080
does not disallow

4175
02:26:44,790 --> 02:26:43,760
both light dimensions right as in poking

4176
02:26:47,110 --> 02:26:44,800
a hole

4177
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:47,120
in each dimension i actually wonder

4178
02:26:49,910 --> 02:26:48,880
people think okay maybe these things

4179
02:26:52,070 --> 02:26:49,920
come from

4180
02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:52,080
other star systems maybe they're just in

4181
02:26:56,469 --> 02:26:54,160
a dimension higher than us

4182
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:56,479
yeah what if they are just poking a hole

4183
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:57,600
and look that goes back to

4184
02:27:00,870 --> 02:26:59,520
you know what lou's saying about uh you

4185
02:27:02,150 --> 02:27:00,880
know outer space interspace and the

4186
02:27:03,990 --> 02:27:02,160
space in between

4187
02:27:05,349 --> 02:27:04,000
um this is such a fascinating comment

4188
02:27:07,110 --> 02:27:05,359
that he keeps coming out with he said it

4189
02:27:09,750 --> 02:27:07,120
on tucker carlson again last night

4190
02:27:10,710 --> 02:27:09,760
um yeah that kind of thing just gets my

4191
02:27:13,510 --> 02:27:10,720
brain spinning

4192
02:27:14,230 --> 02:27:13,520
because i i know you know i really want

4193
02:27:17,270 --> 02:27:14,240
to know

4194
02:27:18,150 --> 02:27:17,280
personal thing it's more of like it's

4195
02:27:20,630 --> 02:27:18,160
for the group but

4196
02:27:21,910 --> 02:27:20,640
that just uh you know i can think about

4197
02:27:25,830 --> 02:27:21,920
that for 12 hours straight

4198
02:27:27,590 --> 02:27:25,840
yeah i've also been on my mind a lot

4199
02:27:29,270 --> 02:27:27,600
how do you not think about that like

4200
02:27:32,230 --> 02:27:29,280
because when dave fravor says

4201
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:32,240
it disappeared right where right so

4202
02:27:36,070 --> 02:27:33,120
where are you

4203
02:27:36,950 --> 02:27:36,080
talking about physics right there

4204
02:27:38,550 --> 02:27:36,960
exactly

4205
02:27:40,230 --> 02:27:38,560
yeah well here's also a thing you guys

4206
02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:40,240
got to keep in mind

4207
02:27:46,950 --> 02:27:44,080
congress is made up of civilians

4208
02:27:48,950 --> 02:27:46,960
you know so this report the classified

4209
02:27:52,389 --> 02:27:48,960
report

4210
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:52,399
was also made for civilians you know but

4211
02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:54,000
just civilians with a little bit

4212
02:27:58,870 --> 02:27:55,520
different access

4213
02:28:01,990 --> 02:27:58,880
um so i think you know i think that that

4214
02:28:05,030 --> 02:28:02,000
other report is also fascinating

4215
02:28:07,030 --> 02:28:05,040
but i i would not shock me if

4216
02:28:09,670 --> 02:28:07,040
even in that report it doesn't give the

4217
02:28:12,230 --> 02:28:09,680
answers that all the people really want

4218
02:28:13,429 --> 02:28:12,240
you know like it's not everything i

4219
02:28:14,630 --> 02:28:13,439
don't think we're ever gonna get one but

4220
02:28:18,070 --> 02:28:14,640
here's the thing

4221
02:28:18,389 --> 02:28:18,080
is we can run for congress yeah you know

4222
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:18,399
like

4223
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:19,920
people in this field could start running

4224
02:28:22,950 --> 02:28:21,520
for congress and start looking at those

4225
02:28:26,230 --> 02:28:22,960
reports

4226
02:28:29,389 --> 02:28:26,240
yeah and and this idea

4227
02:28:30,550 --> 02:28:29,399
of taking a congressional report and

4228
02:28:32,469 --> 02:28:30,560
declassifying

4229
02:28:35,030 --> 02:28:32,479
aspects of it for the american people to

4230
02:28:37,429 --> 02:28:35,040
look at is a very real possibility

4231
02:28:38,150 --> 02:28:37,439
that could happen in the next six months

4232
02:28:39,830 --> 02:28:38,160
and hopefully

4233
02:28:41,510 --> 02:28:39,840
you know if there are public hearings or

4234
02:28:41,830 --> 02:28:41,520
senate hearings hopefully somebody like

4235
02:28:43,670 --> 02:28:41,840
lou

4236
02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:43,680
is compelled to testify and then all

4237
02:28:47,030 --> 02:28:45,520
bets are off because he can say whatever

4238
02:28:47,670 --> 02:28:47,040
he wants to say or whatever they compel

4239
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:47,680
him to say

4240
02:28:50,630 --> 02:28:49,120
in those hearings and i think that

4241
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:50,640
that's a huge part of the road map for

4242
02:28:53,670 --> 02:28:51,840
him and melon

4243
02:28:55,190 --> 02:28:53,680
at least just put it you know connecting

4244
02:28:57,429 --> 02:28:55,200
the dots that seems like

4245
02:28:58,790 --> 02:28:57,439
what they might be leading to um i do

4246
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:58,800
have to go in a minute guys and i i

4247
02:29:02,710 --> 02:29:00,560
could sit here and talk to you all day

4248
02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:02,720
um but i have one thing you know ryan

4249
02:29:06,309 --> 02:29:03,840
and luis um

4250
02:29:07,830 --> 02:29:06,319
one thing that i want to add and i've

4251
02:29:09,510 --> 02:29:07,840
actually sent this to andy from that ufo

4252
02:29:11,190 --> 02:29:09,520
podcast but getting it to people like

4253
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:11,200
you who have a real voice

4254
02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:13,280
and uh can get this you know possibly

4255
02:29:16,070 --> 02:29:14,560
worked into one of your shows with

4256
02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:16,080
somebody like lure chris

4257
02:29:19,270 --> 02:29:18,160
here's a question that i have not heard

4258
02:29:21,990 --> 02:29:19,280
anybody ask

4259
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:22,000
um it's in i'm just going to say it once

4260
02:29:23,750 --> 02:29:22,960
and you can ask me if you have any

4261
02:29:25,990 --> 02:29:23,760
questions

4262
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:26,000
um within the spectrum of all the

4263
02:29:28,550 --> 02:29:27,760
possibilities of what this phenomenon

4264
02:29:31,030 --> 02:29:28,560
would be

4265
02:29:33,110 --> 02:29:31,040
is there a measured degree of certainty

4266
02:29:35,190 --> 02:29:33,120
on a scale of one to ten for example

4267
02:29:36,550 --> 02:29:35,200
to which the data strongly indicates any

4268
02:29:39,030 --> 02:29:36,560
one explanation

4269
02:29:39,590 --> 02:29:39,040
so in other words what is the current

4270
02:29:41,830 --> 02:29:39,600
leading

4271
02:29:42,710 --> 02:29:41,840
hypothesis supported by the facts

4272
02:29:45,429 --> 02:29:42,720
meaning

4273
02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:45,439
extraterrestrial crypto-terrestrial high

4274
02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:46,560
dimensions like

4275
02:29:50,870 --> 02:29:47,600
all of these things that they're

4276
02:29:52,150 --> 02:29:50,880
considering um you know

4277
02:29:53,110 --> 02:29:52,160
something here on earth something under

4278
02:29:54,469 --> 02:29:53,120
the ocean all these things that have

4279
02:29:56,790 --> 02:29:54,479
been mentioned

4280
02:29:58,309 --> 02:29:56,800
is there any degree of certainty on a

4281
02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:58,319
scale of one to ten

4282
02:30:02,070 --> 02:30:00,720
that they're pursuing based on the facts

4283
02:30:03,590 --> 02:30:02,080
and you know

4284
02:30:06,389 --> 02:30:03,600
that i feel like is the type of question

4285
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:06,399
that can be asked without him saying

4286
02:30:09,510 --> 02:30:08,319
yeah you know it's pretty much just yes

4287
02:30:11,030 --> 02:30:09,520
on a scale of

4288
02:30:12,550 --> 02:30:11,040
you know it's seven that it's

4289
02:30:16,150 --> 02:30:12,560
extraterrestrial it's

4290
02:30:17,510 --> 02:30:16,160
five like give them an out but i want to

4291
02:30:18,230 --> 02:30:17,520
see that kind of question asked more

4292
02:30:20,389 --> 02:30:18,240
often

4293
02:30:21,590 --> 02:30:20,399
where it's open-ended so somebody like

4294
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:21,600
melon or lou

4295
02:30:25,750 --> 02:30:23,520
won't have to break an nda won't have to

4296
02:30:27,910 --> 02:30:25,760
deep dive but they can give you a nudge

4297
02:30:29,510 --> 02:30:27,920
and maybe in more breadcrumbs and say

4298
02:30:31,830 --> 02:30:29,520
here's what we're considering

4299
02:30:33,670 --> 02:30:31,840
here's what the facts lead to i can't

4300
02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:33,680
say that any uncertain terms but this is

4301
02:30:41,110 --> 02:30:36,960
where we're going what do you think

4302
02:30:44,550 --> 02:30:41,120
you had you had your hand up your hand

4303
02:30:47,510 --> 02:30:44,560
oh yeah sorry uh to that i mean

4304
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:47,520
um we're limiting that to like the

4305
02:30:52,150 --> 02:30:48,880
possibilities that

4306
02:30:55,349 --> 02:30:52,160
our creativity allows us right so like

4307
02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:55,359
extra dimensional uh just a like

4308
02:30:58,710 --> 02:30:57,280
inner uh inner terrestrial

4309
02:31:02,150 --> 02:30:58,720
extraterrestrial all these things

4310
02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:02,160
these are all uh human creative

4311
02:31:05,349 --> 02:31:03,760
constructs right and it could be

4312
02:31:07,830 --> 02:31:05,359
somewhere outside of that too

4313
02:31:10,710 --> 02:31:07,840
but unfortunately about any of those

4314
02:31:12,710 --> 02:31:10,720
classifications we don't have any like

4315
02:31:13,750 --> 02:31:12,720
we can't assign any known properties to

4316
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:13,760
any of them

4317
02:31:18,070 --> 02:31:16,080
and since like so these these sightings

4318
02:31:19,830 --> 02:31:18,080
at least the ones that we're aware of

4319
02:31:21,110 --> 02:31:19,840
uh there's nothing really explicit about

4320
02:31:23,510 --> 02:31:21,120
them at least the ones that they're

4321
02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:23,520
dealing with with the uaptf

4322
02:31:27,270 --> 02:31:25,600
as far as we know but yeah i do agree

4323
02:31:29,830 --> 02:31:27,280
that that should be a question posed

4324
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:29,840
to lou well i think you're interested

4325
02:31:32,710 --> 02:31:30,640
totally right

4326
02:31:33,830 --> 02:31:32,720
as far as and what the report said is

4327
02:31:35,349 --> 02:31:33,840
maybe we don't have this

4328
02:31:36,950 --> 02:31:35,359
the scientific ability to understand

4329
02:31:39,590 --> 02:31:36,960
these things yeah so that was true

4330
02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:39,600
and that's that's 100 correct and that

4331
02:31:42,710 --> 02:31:41,120
was probably for me the most interesting

4332
02:31:44,070 --> 02:31:42,720
part of the report was that they they

4333
02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:44,080
actually came out and said

4334
02:31:47,670 --> 02:31:46,240
lack of understanding we can't even

4335
02:31:49,910 --> 02:31:47,680
imagine what this is we can't

4336
02:31:52,790 --> 02:31:49,920
contextualize it blah blah blah so

4337
02:31:53,190 --> 02:31:52,800
you're right i i you know i feel like uh

4338
02:31:54,950 --> 02:31:53,200
you know

4339
02:31:57,510 --> 02:31:54,960
lou and chris and those these figures

4340
02:32:00,309 --> 02:31:57,520
are asking us to ask harder questions

4341
02:32:01,750 --> 02:32:00,319
and to to really think about these

4342
02:32:04,150 --> 02:32:01,760
things in different ways

4343
02:32:05,590 --> 02:32:04,160
and i do feel that there is some part of

4344
02:32:07,190 --> 02:32:05,600
this that maybe we simply can't

4345
02:32:10,469 --> 02:32:07,200
understand at this moment in time

4346
02:32:11,590 --> 02:32:10,479
and that's fine but uh you know i feel

4347
02:32:13,830 --> 02:32:11,600
like the press is on now

4348
02:32:14,870 --> 02:32:13,840
like let's go you know keep pouring it

4349
02:32:17,429 --> 02:32:14,880
on yes i think

4350
02:32:18,870 --> 02:32:17,439
we have pushing it but um to your

4351
02:32:22,389 --> 02:32:18,880
question earlier ryan

4352
02:32:26,790 --> 02:32:22,399
um you know bill bigelow right

4353
02:32:29,990 --> 02:32:28,870
and so there's a history of nids then

4354
02:32:32,230 --> 02:32:30,000
you have ossap

4355
02:32:34,950 --> 02:32:32,240
i'm wondering if at some point this

4356
02:32:37,429 --> 02:32:34,960
investigation is going to connect

4357
02:32:38,150 --> 02:32:37,439
the dots there because i think once you

4358
02:32:41,830 --> 02:32:38,160
do that

4359
02:32:45,429 --> 02:32:41,840
if you associate that research with the

4360
02:32:48,710 --> 02:32:45,439
uap task force then mainstream media

4361
02:32:51,110 --> 02:32:48,720
can't wiggle around the paranormal

4362
02:32:52,469 --> 02:32:51,120
subject i think that it's kind of

4363
02:32:54,309 --> 02:32:52,479
unavoidable at that point because if our

4364
02:32:57,510 --> 02:32:54,319
government is contracting

4365
02:32:59,030 --> 02:32:57,520
um bob bigelow to look into exotic

4366
02:33:02,309 --> 02:32:59,040
materials

4367
02:33:03,030 --> 02:33:02,319
right and even though they retracted

4368
02:33:06,950 --> 02:33:03,040
that story

4369
02:33:09,670 --> 02:33:06,960
i think was it was a dod um that

4370
02:33:11,510 --> 02:33:09,680
it's it's out there and and you can't

4371
02:33:14,710 --> 02:33:11,520
you can't deny it and eventually those

4372
02:33:17,429 --> 02:33:14,720
those two things i think are going to to

4373
02:33:18,230 --> 02:33:17,439
cross paths and once people start

4374
02:33:22,389 --> 02:33:18,240
talking about

4375
02:33:24,950 --> 02:33:22,399
then they're going to talk about the

4376
02:33:26,710 --> 02:33:24,960
history of nids and other

4377
02:33:28,230 --> 02:33:26,720
alternative like you like you're saying

4378
02:33:30,230 --> 02:33:28,240
psychic investig

4379
02:33:32,070 --> 02:33:30,240
abilities right with people maybe that

4380
02:33:35,030 --> 02:33:32,080
will be the turning point

4381
02:33:35,510 --> 02:33:35,040
um because if the government is spending

4382
02:33:37,429 --> 02:33:35,520
money

4383
02:33:39,510 --> 02:33:37,439
to research into other things other than

4384
02:33:42,389 --> 02:33:39,520
oh what is that we don't know

4385
02:33:42,870 --> 02:33:42,399
but actually we may have a piece of that

4386
02:33:44,550 --> 02:33:42,880
um

4387
02:33:46,710 --> 02:33:44,560
and there might be other aspects to this

4388
02:33:49,670 --> 02:33:46,720
phenomena i think then yeah

4389
02:33:51,349 --> 02:33:49,680
yeah and and you know my my voice has

4390
02:33:53,990 --> 02:33:51,359
changed completely on this

4391
02:33:54,469 --> 02:33:54,000
um not not for me it wasn't three years

4392
02:33:57,990 --> 02:33:54,479
ago

4393
02:34:00,630 --> 02:33:58,000
i was like

4394
02:34:02,230 --> 02:34:00,640
this isn't disclosure you know this is

4395
02:34:04,070 --> 02:34:02,240
it's not gonna it's not gonna happen

4396
02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:04,080
i'm tired of being feeling burnt you

4397
02:34:08,070 --> 02:34:05,920
know yeah yeah yeah

4398
02:34:09,270 --> 02:34:08,080
no i mentioned i mentioned this in that

4399
02:34:09,830 --> 02:34:09,280
the washington post article that was

4400
02:34:12,790 --> 02:34:09,840
posted

4401
02:34:13,510 --> 02:34:12,800
on the 24th that my i literally ran

4402
02:34:15,270 --> 02:34:13,520
outside

4403
02:34:17,429 --> 02:34:15,280
and screamed at the sky when i read in

4404
02:34:19,429 --> 02:34:17,439
the new york times that

4405
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:19,439
our government has crash retrieval

4406
02:34:22,230 --> 02:34:21,520
programs they put that in the new york

4407
02:34:24,630 --> 02:34:22,240
times

4408
02:34:25,590 --> 02:34:24,640
that changed it for me you know like and

4409
02:34:27,910 --> 02:34:25,600
and despite

4410
02:34:28,790 --> 02:34:27,920
you know december 16 2017 which was

4411
02:34:31,030 --> 02:34:28,800
incredible

4412
02:34:32,870 --> 02:34:31,040
it was that that language of off-world

4413
02:34:35,270 --> 02:34:32,880
vehicles crash retrieval

4414
02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:35,280
in the new york times that really set me

4415
02:34:37,429 --> 02:34:35,920
off

4416
02:34:38,870 --> 02:34:37,439
and uh i remember coming inside and

4417
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:38,880
saying something to my wife like time is

4418
02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:39,760
a flat circle

4419
02:34:47,349 --> 02:34:45,270
and uh and i'm not you know deep into

4420
02:34:48,790 --> 02:34:47,359
conspiracy i i i'm really a very

4421
02:34:49,750 --> 02:34:48,800
level-headed person and that really

4422
02:34:52,710 --> 02:34:49,760
changed it for me

4423
02:34:53,590 --> 02:34:52,720
um and got me on to you know ryan your

4424
02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:53,600
podcast

4425
02:34:57,349 --> 02:34:56,399
lou your stuff uh and then you know on

4426
02:35:00,950 --> 02:34:57,359
and on and on we go

4427
02:35:02,070 --> 02:35:00,960
so i have to go i've got to go get my

4428
02:35:04,389 --> 02:35:02,080
son but uh

4429
02:35:05,670 --> 02:35:04,399
thank you buddy thank you so much for

4430
02:35:07,349 --> 02:35:05,680
hopping in but i was gonna answer

4431
02:35:09,830 --> 02:35:07,359
tim's question there like what what

4432
02:35:12,150 --> 02:35:09,840
would lou elizondo say

4433
02:35:13,270 --> 02:35:12,160
to that question i don't know if he'd

4434
02:35:14,870 --> 02:35:13,280
answer it

4435
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:14,880
i don't think he'd give the answer that

4436
02:35:18,469 --> 02:35:16,640
tim was looking for um

4437
02:35:20,309 --> 02:35:18,479
i think it would be more prosaic his

4438
02:35:22,710 --> 02:35:20,319
answer i think he would probably maybe

4439
02:35:26,469 --> 02:35:22,720
even defer to like a hal put off

4440
02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:26,479
um uh or an eric davis uh because he

4441
02:35:30,150 --> 02:35:28,240
always defers to those guys when it

4442
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:30,160
comes to the science of this thing

4443
02:35:37,429 --> 02:35:33,840
but the thing i think he will say

4444
02:35:40,150 --> 02:35:37,439
is and he said it many times

4445
02:35:41,349 --> 02:35:40,160
don't be shocked if these things are a

4446
02:35:44,630 --> 02:35:41,359
lot closer

4447
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:44,640
than you think yeah a lot a lot

4448
02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:46,960
closer than you think and what i mean

4449
02:35:51,349 --> 02:35:49,760
what i think he means by that

4450
02:35:52,950 --> 02:35:51,359
because we've been having a big

4451
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:52,960
discussion on my show

4452
02:35:58,710 --> 02:35:56,399
and behind the scenes about inspiration

4453
02:35:59,910 --> 02:35:58,720
where does it come from and when it

4454
02:36:03,270 --> 02:35:59,920
comes

4455
02:36:05,590 --> 02:36:03,280
why is it why is it such a rush

4456
02:36:07,030 --> 02:36:05,600
you know like of it feels like a

4457
02:36:09,429 --> 02:36:07,040
download it feels like someone's

4458
02:36:10,790 --> 02:36:09,439
plugging into you and downloading all

4459
02:36:15,030 --> 02:36:10,800
this information

4460
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:15,040
and is it like for example with einstein

4461
02:36:18,790 --> 02:36:17,280
uh when he got e equals mc squared he

4462
02:36:20,230 --> 02:36:18,800
talked about how that came to him it was

4463
02:36:24,309 --> 02:36:20,240
a dream

4464
02:36:26,630 --> 02:36:24,319
um was that einstein

4465
02:36:28,790 --> 02:36:26,640
from a different time coming back to

4466
02:36:31,990 --> 02:36:28,800
einstein at that time and going

4467
02:36:35,190 --> 02:36:32,000
bloop there you go that sounds like

4468
02:36:35,590 --> 02:36:35,200
so i like that theory yeah of uh oh my

4469
02:36:39,030 --> 02:36:35,600
heck

4470
02:36:40,630 --> 02:36:39,040
uh so you're saying e l e equal m c

4471
02:36:42,630 --> 02:36:40,640
squared came from a different time and

4472
02:36:45,030 --> 02:36:42,640
was plopped into here

4473
02:36:46,309 --> 02:36:45,040
i'm saying i'm saying e equals m c

4474
02:36:48,790 --> 02:36:46,319
squared possibly

4475
02:36:49,429 --> 02:36:48,800
came from einstein on a different plane

4476
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:49,439
of time

4477
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:52,080
yeah again relativity came from a

4478
02:36:56,469 --> 02:36:53,200
different time

4479
02:37:00,790 --> 02:36:56,479
frame einstein so like like

4480
02:37:03,670 --> 02:37:00,800
yeah like a parallelogram

4481
02:37:04,710 --> 02:37:03,680
it's a mind twister okay but imagine

4482
02:37:06,389 --> 02:37:04,720
imagine

4483
02:37:08,070 --> 02:37:06,399
you know because again we all can agree

4484
02:37:10,469 --> 02:37:08,080
that these meat sacks

4485
02:37:12,710 --> 02:37:10,479
that we walk around in right right are

4486
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:12,720
holding something a lot more special and

4487
02:37:18,389 --> 02:37:15,120
just this meat sack is just the

4488
02:37:20,630 --> 02:37:18,399
an 80-year time frame in which this

4489
02:37:22,630 --> 02:37:20,640
spirit lives in so when this spirit goes

4490
02:37:24,389 --> 02:37:22,640
away where does it go

4491
02:37:25,670 --> 02:37:24,399
right can i interject something yeah go

4492
02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:25,680
for it no no you're actually so

4493
02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:28,319
kind of going back to allen's comment oh

4494
02:37:32,309 --> 02:37:30,160
probably three comments ago

4495
02:37:33,830 --> 02:37:32,319
kind of about the paranormal right

4496
02:37:37,030 --> 02:37:33,840
because you get the paranormal

4497
02:37:40,550 --> 02:37:37,040
that kind of meets the i don't know uap

4498
02:37:42,230 --> 02:37:40,560
the high strangeness how come

4499
02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:42,240
so it all kind of to me it all comes

4500
02:37:45,830 --> 02:37:44,000
back to consciousness

4501
02:37:47,750 --> 02:37:45,840
so you've got the cia doing these like

4502
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:47,760
you said remote viewing

4503
02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:50,160
they're looking into high consciousness

4504
02:37:52,710 --> 02:37:51,040
into

4505
02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:52,720
like uh rem you know what i'm saying

4506
02:37:57,910 --> 02:37:54,560
remote with you so

4507
02:38:01,590 --> 02:37:57,920
who's to say this isn't all interweb

4508
02:38:03,910 --> 02:38:01,600
right not all one fabric

4509
02:38:05,349 --> 02:38:03,920
we're just on one strand we're not on

4510
02:38:08,389 --> 02:38:05,359
the whole fabric yet

4511
02:38:11,349 --> 02:38:08,399
yeah you've got you've got between

4512
02:38:12,630 --> 02:38:11,359
our consciousness our body and what is

4513
02:38:15,590 --> 02:38:12,640
popping through here

4514
02:38:19,190 --> 02:38:15,600
used to say it's not all in one one web

4515
02:38:21,590 --> 02:38:19,200
well i asked lou about this right

4516
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:21,600
an analogy that he loves using as a

4517
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:22,960
cigarette analogy

4518
02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:26,000
or this um this uh not a cigarette but

4519
02:38:29,750 --> 02:38:26,640
like a

4520
02:38:30,710 --> 02:38:29,760
um a wick that's going to a stick of

4521
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:30,720
dynamite

4522
02:38:36,389 --> 02:38:34,640
so the the the ash is the past

4523
02:38:38,070 --> 02:38:36,399
the un the unsmoked part of the

4524
02:38:39,110 --> 02:38:38,080
cigarette is everything that hasn't

4525
02:38:40,550 --> 02:38:39,120
happened yet

4526
02:38:42,950 --> 02:38:40,560
and then right in the middle you've got

4527
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:42,960
the combustion point the cherry

4528
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:45,359
and then when you start looking at this

4529
02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:47,680
cherry especially at a subatomic level

4530
02:38:53,110 --> 02:38:49,200
you'll notice

4531
02:38:56,950 --> 02:38:53,120
that it's not one clean burn you'll see

4532
02:38:59,510 --> 02:38:56,960
you'll see sparks happening in the ash

4533
02:39:00,630 --> 02:38:59,520
you'll see new sparks happening in parts

4534
02:39:02,309 --> 02:39:00,640
that aren't unlit

4535
02:39:04,230 --> 02:39:02,319
and then you've got this red cherry in

4536
02:39:06,070 --> 02:39:04,240
the middle but it's all metaphysical

4537
02:39:09,270 --> 02:39:06,080
it's all going in and out at the exact

4538
02:39:11,429 --> 02:39:09,280
same time it's all happening all at once

4539
02:39:12,309 --> 02:39:11,439
that's that's kind of what we're dealing

4540
02:39:16,870 --> 02:39:12,319
with here

4541
02:39:20,469 --> 02:39:18,950
time is another dimension so you got

4542
02:39:23,349 --> 02:39:20,479
height with depth then you got

4543
02:39:25,030 --> 02:39:23,359
time right okay and as far as we

4544
02:39:26,230 --> 02:39:25,040
understand as far as we understand it

4545
02:39:28,790 --> 02:39:26,240
right but this

4546
02:39:29,750 --> 02:39:28,800
idea that this cherry the now right here

4547
02:39:32,230 --> 02:39:29,760
right this second

4548
02:39:33,190 --> 02:39:32,240
sure is happening and it's also just

4549
02:39:34,790 --> 02:39:33,200
happened and so

4550
02:39:36,870 --> 02:39:34,800
where does that just happen go where

4551
02:39:39,830 --> 02:39:36,880
does that live and what about me

4552
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:39,840
in the future like where i gotta meet my

4553
02:39:42,230 --> 02:39:41,760
words happening right now at some point

4554
02:40:14,389 --> 02:39:42,240
i

4555
02:40:17,910 --> 02:40:14,399
sales cyber mushrooms

4556
02:40:19,830 --> 02:40:17,920
i took way too much i think way too much

4557
02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:19,840
and i was on the ground and like

4558
02:40:24,469 --> 02:40:21,600
literally it felt like this just

4559
02:40:25,590 --> 02:40:24,479
intense it was so intense and i could i

4560
02:40:27,670 --> 02:40:25,600
see a solid in my

4561
02:40:29,349 --> 02:40:27,680
mind's eye like this download coming

4562
02:40:31,750 --> 02:40:29,359
into my head and it was too much

4563
02:40:33,429 --> 02:40:31,760
i started weeping yeah because it was

4564
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:33,439
like holy i couldn't i couldn't handle

4565
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:35,439
it alan that happened to me

4566
02:40:40,469 --> 02:40:38,800
three months ago um

4567
02:40:42,150 --> 02:40:40,479
right after the big phone home and i

4568
02:40:44,630 --> 02:40:42,160
really started visioning

4569
02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:44,640
what my show and where the future of

4570
02:40:48,309 --> 02:40:46,720
this was gonna start going

4571
02:40:50,710 --> 02:40:48,319
and that exact same thing happened to me

4572
02:40:53,830 --> 02:40:50,720
i just had a download of information

4573
02:40:54,870 --> 02:40:53,840
it was so intense you texted me i texted

4574
02:40:57,269 --> 02:40:54,880
it i texted you

4575
02:40:59,030 --> 02:40:57,279
i texted a bunch of recently he's like

4576
02:40:59,750 --> 02:40:59,040
what the hell is he saying to me right

4577
02:41:02,710 --> 02:40:59,760
now i

4578
02:41:03,349 --> 02:41:02,720
i couldn't louise i could not articulate

4579
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:03,359
myself

4580
02:41:08,150 --> 02:41:06,640
sure i could not explain what was

4581
02:41:10,070 --> 02:41:08,160
happening in my head

4582
02:41:12,150 --> 02:41:10,080
to a point where my more my mom called

4583
02:41:14,230 --> 02:41:12,160
me i just broke down in tears because on

4584
02:41:15,030 --> 02:41:14,240
my mom i don't know how to explain to

4585
02:41:16,950 --> 02:41:15,040
you

4586
02:41:18,630 --> 02:41:16,960
what i'm feeling right now but it's like

4587
02:41:20,790 --> 02:41:18,640
i'm seeing the future

4588
02:41:22,630 --> 02:41:20,800
i've seen everything i saw everything

4589
02:41:23,590 --> 02:41:22,640
laid out i saw everything that was gonna

4590
02:41:26,950 --> 02:41:23,600
happen

4591
02:41:30,710 --> 02:41:26,960
and and it brought me a

4592
02:41:33,910 --> 02:41:30,720
immense sense of peace

4593
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:33,920
primarily because i'm an actor as ryan

4594
02:41:38,309 --> 02:41:35,040
knows

4595
02:41:40,469 --> 02:41:38,319
you know my whole 40-year or 25-year

4596
02:41:42,550 --> 02:41:40,479
career has been working in restaurants

4597
02:41:43,190 --> 02:41:42,560
struggling to pay bills struggling to

4598
02:41:44,550 --> 02:41:43,200
know

4599
02:41:46,309 --> 02:41:44,560
where the next thing is going to come

4600
02:41:47,269 --> 02:41:46,319
from when the next gig is going to be

4601
02:41:51,429 --> 02:41:47,279
here

4602
02:41:54,630 --> 02:41:51,439
that worry that anxiety

4603
02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:54,640
i have not felt in three months i

4604
02:41:58,630 --> 02:41:57,120
probably will never feel it again that

4605
02:42:01,190 --> 02:41:58,640
part of me is gone

4606
02:42:03,349 --> 02:42:01,200
and it's gone because i've got this

4607
02:42:06,150 --> 02:42:03,359
download i've got this inspiration i

4608
02:42:08,950 --> 02:42:06,160
see the path as i was telling you ryan i

4609
02:42:11,910 --> 02:42:08,960
see the matrix like i see the code

4610
02:42:12,389 --> 02:42:11,920
um it's so simple to navigate it's like

4611
02:42:15,349 --> 02:42:12,399
neo

4612
02:42:17,269 --> 02:42:15,359
at the end of the movie it's like oh

4613
02:42:20,710 --> 02:42:17,279
this is what it is

4614
02:42:21,670 --> 02:42:20,720
and it's real inspiration is not an

4615
02:42:24,630 --> 02:42:21,680
original

4616
02:42:27,030 --> 02:42:24,640
thought you don't come up with this [\h__\h]

4617
02:42:29,030 --> 02:42:27,040
it's given to you

4618
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:29,040
yeah are you familiar with uh david

4619
02:42:32,790 --> 02:42:30,560
lynch in his transcendental

4620
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:32,800
meditation because he says things very

4621
02:42:37,510 --> 02:42:34,479
similar to what you're saying right now

4622
02:42:39,510 --> 02:42:37,520
i david lynch the director mm-hmm

4623
02:42:41,349 --> 02:42:39,520
i no i have not heard him talk about

4624
02:42:44,870 --> 02:42:41,359
this but you know what

4625
02:42:46,469 --> 02:42:44,880
you know his shows are the spitting

4626
02:42:47,910 --> 02:42:46,479
image of what i'm talking about and

4627
02:42:49,670 --> 02:42:47,920
that's what yeah like i think i need

4628
02:42:51,429 --> 02:42:49,680
i need to go back and watch his films

4629
02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:51,439
because i remember watching david lynch

4630
02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:52,560
going what the

4631
02:42:55,990 --> 02:42:54,479
what is this i highly recommend it

4632
02:42:57,190 --> 02:42:56,000
because they do make sense

4633
02:42:59,190 --> 02:42:57,200
and i could get into that and that's a

4634
02:43:00,710 --> 02:42:59,200
whole other topic but yeah going back to

4635
02:43:01,830 --> 02:43:00,720
what you're saying earlier it sounds a

4636
02:43:03,830 --> 02:43:01,840
lot like that

4637
02:43:05,750 --> 02:43:03,840
that classic argument the philosophy

4638
02:43:06,230 --> 02:43:05,760
between emmanuel kant and nietzsche

4639
02:43:07,990 --> 02:43:06,240
where

4640
02:43:09,990 --> 02:43:08,000
kant says i think therefore i am and

4641
02:43:11,510 --> 02:43:10,000
nietzsche says well that's presumptuous

4642
02:43:12,070 --> 02:43:11,520
thinking that your thoughts are coming

4643
02:43:14,950 --> 02:43:12,080
from

4644
02:43:15,750 --> 02:43:14,960
you as you perceive yourself right as

4645
02:43:17,670 --> 02:43:15,760
like

4646
02:43:19,670 --> 02:43:17,680
so again that i mean maybe this lends

4647
02:43:23,750 --> 02:43:19,680
credibility to the whole phenomenon

4648
02:43:25,590 --> 02:43:23,760
is conscious related and if so

4649
02:43:27,510 --> 02:43:25,600
then we need to take science down off

4650
02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:27,520
this pedestal that a lot of people say

4651
02:43:30,150 --> 02:43:28,640
because

4652
02:43:31,750 --> 02:43:30,160
that's that is a realm that science

4653
02:43:34,950 --> 02:43:31,760
doesn't touch unfortunately

4654
02:43:37,190 --> 02:43:34,960
so it's not it's not the end science

4655
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:37,200
needs to start looking toward the fringe

4656
02:43:40,469 --> 02:43:39,600
sure yeah but science is uh is a

4657
02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:40,479
heuristic

4658
02:43:45,030 --> 02:43:43,120
right so yeah if if i want to go fix my

4659
02:43:47,510 --> 02:43:45,040
car i'm not going to use a hammer

4660
02:43:49,910 --> 02:43:47,520
right that's that's my thought i'm right

4661
02:43:53,429 --> 02:43:49,920
right two things two things guys

4662
02:43:55,110 --> 02:43:53,439
um first of all all of you should be

4663
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:55,120
working for bob bigelow and his

4664
02:43:58,870 --> 02:43:56,240
consciousness

4665
02:44:00,550 --> 02:43:58,880
company um because there you go there's

4666
02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:00,560
someone who does want to

4667
02:44:04,230 --> 02:44:03,760
involve these things into it um avi loeb

4668
02:44:07,110 --> 02:44:04,240
as well

4669
02:44:09,510 --> 02:44:07,120
but my question for you guys is uh

4670
02:44:11,110 --> 02:44:09,520
elizondo was recently on an interview

4671
02:44:15,110 --> 02:44:11,120
theory of everything where

4672
02:44:16,950 --> 02:44:15,120
the they asked him what would people do

4673
02:44:18,389 --> 02:44:16,960
if they knew the things you were privy

4674
02:44:21,510 --> 02:44:18,399
to and some of these people

4675
02:44:23,910 --> 02:44:21,520
and his answer was terrifying

4676
02:44:25,750 --> 02:44:23,920
sad beautiful remember um did you guys

4677
02:44:26,070 --> 02:44:25,760
see that interview and what did you make

4678
02:44:28,309 --> 02:44:26,080
of

4679
02:44:29,830 --> 02:44:28,319
his response which was along the lines

4680
02:44:31,590 --> 02:44:29,840
of oh i don't even

4681
02:44:33,830 --> 02:44:31,600
you give me your interpretation let's go

4682
02:44:36,469 --> 02:44:33,840
with um let's go with travis first

4683
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:36,479
did you happen to catch that man um i'm

4684
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:38,080
trying to remember i've watched so much

4685
02:44:41,670 --> 02:44:40,240
so many interviews i know we all have i

4686
02:44:44,950 --> 02:44:41,680
know so basically

4687
02:44:45,990 --> 02:44:44,960
yes what would how would the public

4688
02:44:48,070 --> 02:44:46,000
react if they knew

4689
02:44:50,150 --> 02:44:48,080
what you found out and what some of

4690
02:44:52,710 --> 02:44:50,160
these people actually know in the higher

4691
02:44:53,990 --> 02:44:52,720
upper echelons um and he had some really

4692
02:44:56,230 --> 02:44:54,000
interesting answers

4693
02:44:57,670 --> 02:44:56,240
right you know i think people would

4694
02:44:58,950 --> 02:44:57,680
start to look at life a lot different

4695
02:45:01,830 --> 02:44:58,960
for one

4696
02:45:02,870 --> 02:45:01,840
right i mean i mean seriously everyone's

4697
02:45:06,309 --> 02:45:02,880
so stuck

4698
02:45:07,910 --> 02:45:06,319
in their own little day-to-day uh

4699
02:45:09,510 --> 02:45:07,920
you know we all have our own things

4700
02:45:11,750 --> 02:45:09,520
right yeah

4701
02:45:13,190 --> 02:45:11,760
but uh we we never really look at the

4702
02:45:15,110 --> 02:45:13,200
big picture

4703
02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:15,120
like where we're really going what's

4704
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:16,800
really going on

4705
02:45:20,309 --> 02:45:18,640
and i think it would scare the [\h__\h] out

4706
02:45:22,630 --> 02:45:20,319
of people to be true

4707
02:45:24,630 --> 02:45:22,640
but totally i'll just leave it at that i

4708
02:45:26,870 --> 02:45:24,640
i don't want to expand too much

4709
02:45:28,230 --> 02:45:26,880
okay um what do you think invisible

4710
02:45:31,429 --> 02:45:28,240
night school

4711
02:45:33,590 --> 02:45:31,439
i think that half the people would just

4712
02:45:35,110 --> 02:45:33,600
deny it you know what i mean like look

4713
02:45:38,150 --> 02:45:35,120
at people's reactions to

4714
02:45:40,389 --> 02:45:38,160
coving i i i

4715
02:45:41,670 --> 02:45:40,399
yeah right so there'd be a lot of

4716
02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:41,680
cognitive dissonance there's a lot of

4717
02:45:43,349 --> 02:45:42,560
people who wouldn't do it and there's a

4718
02:45:45,750 --> 02:45:43,359
lot of people i think

4719
02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:45,760
that probably wouldn't take the effort

4720
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:47,760
to grasp it because

4721
02:45:51,750 --> 02:45:49,920
the impression that i got from that line

4722
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:51,760
is that

4723
02:45:58,230 --> 02:45:54,960
our concept of what reality is

4724
02:46:00,309 --> 02:45:58,240
is probably not the full picture if not

4725
02:46:02,630 --> 02:46:00,319
based incorrectly i mentioned i

4726
02:46:04,070 --> 02:46:02,640
mentioned like the uh the tyconian solar

4727
02:46:05,190 --> 02:46:04,080
system model and before that the

4728
02:46:07,590 --> 02:46:05,200
ptolemaic

4729
02:46:08,710 --> 02:46:07,600
those were systems that the sun moved

4730
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:08,720
around the earth obviously

4731
02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:10,560
but mathematically it predicted a lot of

4732
02:46:14,230 --> 02:46:12,479
things until we reached like

4733
02:46:15,670 --> 02:46:14,240
the path of neptune it didn't correctly

4734
02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:15,680
do that but

4735
02:46:19,910 --> 02:46:18,080
to all observers like yeah this system

4736
02:46:21,590 --> 02:46:19,920
makes perfect sense right

4737
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:21,600
it's predicting mars it's predicting the

4738
02:46:25,429 --> 02:46:24,080
sun and the moon it fits

4739
02:46:26,870 --> 02:46:25,439
but it was completely wrong and we

4740
02:46:27,429 --> 02:46:26,880
didn't realize that until kepler came

4741
02:46:28,630 --> 02:46:27,439
around

4742
02:46:30,070 --> 02:46:28,640
came along and discovered that the

4743
02:46:31,190 --> 02:46:30,080
orbits of the planets were ellipses

4744
02:46:34,550 --> 02:46:31,200
right

4745
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:34,560
i maybe what we know now maybe the whole

4746
02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:36,319
foundation of what we know now

4747
02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:38,080
is that tyconian system and we're

4748
02:46:42,309 --> 02:46:39,439
waiting for a kepler

4749
02:46:43,830 --> 02:46:42,319
so like everything like the way we

4750
02:46:46,790 --> 02:46:43,840
experience reality right our

4751
02:46:48,710 --> 02:46:46,800
our consciences are making models in our

4752
02:46:50,230 --> 02:46:48,720
mind of what we're observing it's not

4753
02:46:52,070 --> 02:46:50,240
one-to-one

4754
02:46:54,150 --> 02:46:52,080
so like who who knows what we don't have

4755
02:46:54,950 --> 02:46:54,160
the sensory organs to observe in the

4756
02:46:56,630 --> 02:46:54,960
first place

4757
02:46:58,070 --> 02:46:56,640
right there's so much stuff that's

4758
02:47:00,630 --> 02:46:58,080
limited by our

4759
02:47:01,190 --> 02:47:00,640
current paradigms our current model of

4760
02:47:03,269 --> 02:47:01,200
learning that

4761
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:03,279
we learn through school and stuff like

4762
02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:05,200
that and it could just be all

4763
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:07,920
not necessarily wrong but you know

4764
02:47:10,870 --> 02:47:09,600
slightly misguided or slightly off and

4765
02:47:13,830 --> 02:47:10,880
we're missing a key piece

4766
02:47:14,790 --> 02:47:13,840
what you mean yeah it's it's it could be

4767
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:14,800
completely huge

4768
02:47:17,830 --> 02:47:16,960
and life-shattering for a lot of people

4769
02:47:19,269 --> 02:47:17,840
but

4770
02:47:21,030 --> 02:47:19,279
i don't know i like to give people a

4771
02:47:21,670 --> 02:47:21,040
little more credit i like people could

4772
02:47:23,590 --> 02:47:21,680
handle that

4773
02:47:25,110 --> 02:47:23,600
right i think i could handle it i agree

4774
02:47:27,190 --> 02:47:25,120
i agree with you on that i think

4775
02:47:29,110 --> 02:47:27,200
there's always this notion that once

4776
02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:29,120
some big disclosure happened or we did

4777
02:47:33,030 --> 02:47:30,880
learn definitively

4778
02:47:34,389 --> 02:47:33,040
alien civilizations exist they've been

4779
02:47:36,309 --> 02:47:34,399
here that um

4780
02:47:37,750 --> 02:47:36,319
you know the whole war of the world's

4781
02:47:38,230 --> 02:47:37,760
[\h__\h] that like that's not gonna

4782
02:47:41,030 --> 02:47:38,240
happen um

4783
02:47:41,429 --> 02:47:41,040
people would go mad and pandemonium and

4784
02:47:43,190 --> 02:47:41,439
look

4785
02:47:44,950 --> 02:47:43,200
we went through and we're still going

4786
02:47:52,469 --> 02:47:44,960
through the worst

4787
02:47:56,469 --> 02:47:54,950
which a lot of people take as a fact

4788
02:47:57,750 --> 02:47:56,479
there's a large group of people who

4789
02:47:59,750 --> 02:47:57,760
don't i mean

4790
02:48:01,510 --> 02:47:59,760
yep that's fine they will no people will

4791
02:48:03,429 --> 02:48:01,520
process it in all their own ways but i

4792
02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:03,439
don't think anyone's gonna like explode

4793
02:48:07,429 --> 02:48:07,040
so yeah this is more of a paradigm shift

4794
02:48:10,389 --> 02:48:07,439
for

4795
02:48:12,230 --> 02:48:10,399
science this is the this is uh the

4796
02:48:14,150 --> 02:48:12,240
galileo moment you know the moment that

4797
02:48:16,070 --> 02:48:14,160
galileo looks through the telescope

4798
02:48:18,550 --> 02:48:16,080
right and he sees round planets and a

4799
02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:18,560
sun and oh [\h__\h] we revolve around

4800
02:48:21,670 --> 02:48:20,880
it it doesn't revolve around us i got to

4801
02:48:24,790 --> 02:48:21,680
show people

4802
02:48:25,590 --> 02:48:24,800
so who does he call the church and what

4803
02:48:28,150 --> 02:48:25,600
happens

4804
02:48:30,469 --> 02:48:28,160
the church shows up at the telescope and

4805
02:48:32,630 --> 02:48:30,479
and they listen to his presentation

4806
02:48:34,309 --> 02:48:32,640
and then the church him well yeah no but

4807
02:48:36,309 --> 02:48:34,319
it's not even so much burn him it was

4808
02:48:37,590 --> 02:48:36,319
it was you know hey look this is what's

4809
02:48:38,630 --> 02:48:37,600
happening just look through the

4810
02:48:41,269 --> 02:48:38,640
telescope

4811
02:48:42,710 --> 02:48:41,279
and the church is like no we're not

4812
02:48:44,309 --> 02:48:42,720
looking through the telescope

4813
02:48:46,550 --> 02:48:44,319
as a matter of fact you're on house

4814
02:48:48,469 --> 02:48:46,560
arrest don't talk about this again

4815
02:48:49,830 --> 02:48:48,479
you know so like i think that's kind of

4816
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:49,840
what's happening right now right now

4817
02:48:52,550 --> 02:48:50,560
we're

4818
02:48:53,990 --> 02:48:52,560
but the the good thing is science can't

4819
02:48:55,349 --> 02:48:54,000
put us on house arrest

4820
02:48:57,349 --> 02:48:55,359
it's they're gonna be forced we're

4821
02:48:59,590 --> 02:48:57,359
literally forcing them their face

4822
02:49:01,670 --> 02:48:59,600
to the telescope and saying just it's

4823
02:49:03,510 --> 02:49:01,680
all it's almost like that

4824
02:49:05,750 --> 02:49:03,520
that fight and they live where he's like

4825
02:49:07,830 --> 02:49:05,760
put on the goddamn glasses

4826
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:07,840
just look through the telescope you know

4827
02:49:10,790 --> 02:49:10,240
like we're gonna have a 20-minute street

4828
02:49:12,550 --> 02:49:10,800
fight

4829
02:49:14,469 --> 02:49:12,560
just for you to put on these glasses

4830
02:49:15,429 --> 02:49:14,479
just put them on that is a beautiful

4831
02:49:19,510 --> 02:49:15,439
that's the one with uh

4832
02:49:20,469 --> 02:49:19,520
roddy i still have to see it i still

4833
02:49:23,190 --> 02:49:20,479
have to see it

4834
02:49:24,950 --> 02:49:23,200
well one thing guys um i know i know

4835
02:49:26,950 --> 02:49:24,960
watch party

4836
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:26,960
i'm doing it today so we're going up on

4837
02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:28,720
the three hour mark and i do believe i

4838
02:49:31,670 --> 02:49:30,560
have the limited stream yard that will

4839
02:49:34,950 --> 02:49:31,680
cut off after that

4840
02:49:39,110 --> 02:49:34,960
it comes from four oh four okay well

4841
02:49:42,630 --> 02:49:41,190
that being said um alan i do want to get

4842
02:49:44,469 --> 02:49:42,640
your final thoughts on

4843
02:49:46,790 --> 02:49:44,479
that and then i'm gonna ask each of you

4844
02:49:49,670 --> 02:49:46,800
guys one more question after that

4845
02:49:51,110 --> 02:49:49,680
um so before we do that thank you guys

4846
02:49:53,349 --> 02:49:51,120
for hopping in i truly thank you

4847
02:49:55,269 --> 02:49:53,359
truly appreciate your support and for

4848
02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:55,279
coming spending some time with us so

4849
02:49:57,670 --> 02:49:56,080
ellen yeah

4850
02:49:59,349 --> 02:49:57,680
if you want to remark on that last thing

4851
02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:59,359
there with elizondo's

4852
02:50:02,389 --> 02:50:01,520
you know kind of profound answer to that

4853
02:50:03,990 --> 02:50:02,399
question

4854
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:04,000
yeah i think the mystery for me is if

4855
02:50:06,710 --> 02:50:05,359
you're practically right down the street

4856
02:50:08,230 --> 02:50:06,720
how come you have so much more light

4857
02:50:10,710 --> 02:50:08,240
than i do

4858
02:50:12,790 --> 02:50:10,720
i know oh my god ellen people don't know

4859
02:50:13,590 --> 02:50:12,800
alan and i literally live within blocks

4860
02:50:15,670 --> 02:50:13,600
of each other

4861
02:50:17,269 --> 02:50:15,680
here in new york city so that's a

4862
02:50:18,630 --> 02:50:17,279
mystery in itself but that's a mystery

4863
02:50:20,550 --> 02:50:18,640
in itself i know man

4864
02:50:21,830 --> 02:50:20,560
so yeah okay so i want to bring this

4865
02:50:25,030 --> 02:50:21,840
back to the report

4866
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:25,040
i think i think my

4867
02:50:29,110 --> 02:50:26,800
my takeaway that i think is the most

4868
02:50:31,349 --> 02:50:29,120
positive of the whole report

4869
02:50:32,230 --> 02:50:31,359
is not the other that people are really

4870
02:50:33,750 --> 02:50:32,240
excited about

4871
02:50:36,230 --> 02:50:33,760
to me that's that's no different than

4872
02:50:37,670 --> 02:50:36,240
stanton friedman's the gray basket

4873
02:50:38,870 --> 02:50:37,680
it's kind of like i don't have enough

4874
02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:38,880
information don't know what it is let's

4875
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:40,880
put it over here

4876
02:50:44,469 --> 02:50:44,000
but there is a finite number of reports

4877
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:44,479
that

4878
02:50:49,910 --> 02:50:47,920
are legitimately unexplained

4879
02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:49,920
based on the radar data that they have

4880
02:50:53,429 --> 02:50:50,960
the eyewitness

4881
02:50:54,469 --> 02:50:53,439
witness data that they have um and so

4882
02:50:57,990 --> 02:50:54,479
what they're saying

4883
02:51:01,190 --> 02:50:58,000
is we need to maybe create

4884
02:51:04,630 --> 02:51:01,200
better tools to analyze this

4885
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:04,640
so that means they are all in now

4886
02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:06,160
i was disappointed that they didn't at

4887
02:51:10,230 --> 02:51:08,560
least give us one case study

4888
02:51:12,150 --> 02:51:10,240
in the right because it's otherwise it's

4889
02:51:13,269 --> 02:51:12,160
not really a report right it's it's just

4890
02:51:17,030 --> 02:51:13,279
like a

4891
02:51:18,150 --> 02:51:17,040
an overview yeah and so but i think it's

4892
02:51:20,070 --> 02:51:18,160
a positive thing i

4893
02:51:21,510 --> 02:51:20,080
really do and i think that that they

4894
02:51:23,190 --> 02:51:21,520
want to bring all this data from all

4895
02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:23,200
these different agencies together who

4896
02:51:27,750 --> 02:51:25,120
knows how much they have already

4897
02:51:29,910 --> 02:51:27,760
um that's important and i don't think

4898
02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:29,920
it's a limited to 2004.

4899
02:51:33,429 --> 02:51:32,880
so sure they might be struggling with

4900
02:51:37,110 --> 02:51:33,439
the

4901
02:51:38,150 --> 02:51:37,120
getting data but someone might

4902
02:51:40,469 --> 02:51:38,160
might say you know what we have this

4903
02:51:42,950 --> 02:51:40,479
report from 1985.

4904
02:51:43,670 --> 02:51:42,960
take this we had this report from 1992.

4905
02:51:47,510 --> 02:51:43,680
take a look

4906
02:51:50,309 --> 02:51:47,520
project blue book

4907
02:51:52,150 --> 02:51:50,319
the tools that we have um and just

4908
02:51:54,630 --> 02:51:52,160
overall knowledge of what's going on in

4909
02:51:56,469 --> 02:51:54,640
the skies right our pilots

4910
02:51:59,190 --> 02:51:56,479
um have a different level of training

4911
02:52:02,469 --> 02:51:59,200
than they did in the 50s or 40s and 60s

4912
02:52:04,230 --> 02:52:02,479
i think that the the the

4913
02:52:05,510 --> 02:52:04,240
material that we're studying that we're

4914
02:52:08,790 --> 02:52:05,520
working with

4915
02:52:11,750 --> 02:52:08,800
is more solid than what you would get

4916
02:52:12,710 --> 02:52:11,760
from that broad civilian slash military

4917
02:52:15,590 --> 02:52:12,720
study that was the

4918
02:52:17,510 --> 02:52:15,600
project blue book so i'm more excited

4919
02:52:19,269 --> 02:52:17,520
about this because i think that

4920
02:52:20,630 --> 02:52:19,279
we have much more solid data to work

4921
02:52:22,550 --> 02:52:20,640
with just to start

4922
02:52:24,469 --> 02:52:22,560
and now we have the open-mindedness to

4923
02:52:27,269 --> 02:52:24,479
say we've got good data

4924
02:52:28,870 --> 02:52:27,279
and we still want more and so i'm i'm

4925
02:52:30,790 --> 02:52:28,880
all in on the report so far

4926
02:52:32,150 --> 02:52:30,800
i love that man that actually bled into

4927
02:52:34,230 --> 02:52:32,160
my last question

4928
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:34,240
for you guys so alan i'm actually gonna

4929
02:52:37,110 --> 02:52:36,399
um i'm gonna boot you out my man so that

4930
02:52:38,630 --> 02:52:37,120
we uh

4931
02:52:40,870 --> 02:52:38,640
we get everything but thank you brother

4932
02:52:42,630 --> 02:52:40,880
thank you let's grab a coffee or beer

4933
02:52:46,469 --> 02:52:42,640
maybe later this afternoon all right

4934
02:52:48,790 --> 02:52:46,479
okay take care all right thanks buddy

4935
02:52:50,710 --> 02:52:48,800
awesome so my last question guys and

4936
02:52:51,590 --> 02:52:50,720
ellen did such a beautiful job of kind

4937
02:52:53,429 --> 02:52:51,600
of um

4938
02:52:55,110 --> 02:52:53,439
summarizing what i want from uh the

4939
02:52:58,389 --> 02:52:55,120
three of you guys before we go here

4940
02:53:00,469 --> 02:52:58,399
so travis we'll start with you my man um

4941
02:53:02,070 --> 02:53:00,479
what do you what it what is the most

4942
02:53:05,110 --> 02:53:02,080
important thing you took

4943
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:05,120
from this report coming out and what do

4944
02:53:10,230 --> 02:53:05,760
you hope

4945
02:53:12,550 --> 02:53:10,240
comes next for the ufo topic

4946
02:53:13,349 --> 02:53:12,560
well excuse me i think the most

4947
02:53:16,070 --> 02:53:13,359
important thing

4948
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:16,080
was that it's finally being acknowledged

4949
02:53:20,469 --> 02:53:18,160
that these things are real

4950
02:53:22,389 --> 02:53:20,479
whatever it is whatever it may be

4951
02:53:24,550 --> 02:53:22,399
whether it's extraterrestrial

4952
02:53:25,830 --> 02:53:24,560
you know inter-terrestrial consciousness

4953
02:53:29,269 --> 02:53:25,840
whatever it is

4954
02:53:33,030 --> 02:53:29,279
at least now it's not on the fringe okay

4955
02:53:35,990 --> 02:53:33,040
at least now that we we can let pilots

4956
02:53:36,870 --> 02:53:36,000
um whether it's military whether it's

4957
02:53:39,990 --> 02:53:36,880
civilian

4958
02:53:40,950 --> 02:53:40,000
aircraft at least they can feel good

4959
02:53:42,790 --> 02:53:40,960
about

4960
02:53:43,990 --> 02:53:42,800
turning these things in and saying hey

4961
02:53:47,110 --> 02:53:44,000
what is this

4962
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:47,120
what almost hit us um yeah

4963
02:53:52,790 --> 02:53:50,160
people won't be so uh

4964
02:53:54,150 --> 02:53:52,800
you know they won't feel so shy or feel

4965
02:53:54,950 --> 02:53:54,160
like they're going to be ridiculed and

4966
02:54:01,510 --> 02:53:54,960
have their

4967
02:54:02,309 --> 02:54:01,520
spoke up and and another thing i think

4968
02:54:04,790 --> 02:54:02,319
that's important

4969
02:54:05,990 --> 02:54:04,800
is that i think i think the timing on

4970
02:54:09,190 --> 02:54:06,000
this disclosure well

4971
02:54:10,710 --> 02:54:09,200
this nine page disclosure was pretty it

4972
02:54:12,790 --> 02:54:10,720
was pretty good because you think about

4973
02:54:14,710 --> 02:54:12,800
what we just went through with gold

4974
02:54:17,750 --> 02:54:14,720
the divisiveness in this country right

4975
02:54:20,870 --> 02:54:17,760
now what's going on across the world but

4976
02:54:21,750 --> 02:54:20,880
really in this country we've got blue

4977
02:54:23,670 --> 02:54:21,760
versus red

4978
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:23,680
everyone you know these guys are right

4979
02:54:27,590 --> 02:54:25,120
these guys are wrong

4980
02:54:28,790 --> 02:54:27,600
i think that this disclosure what little

4981
02:54:31,510 --> 02:54:28,800
it may be

4982
02:54:33,349 --> 02:54:31,520
is just enough to push us back together

4983
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:33,359
just a little bit

4984
02:54:36,550 --> 02:54:36,160
just a little and i think the timing was

4985
02:54:40,070 --> 02:54:36,560
just

4986
02:54:41,830 --> 02:54:40,080
right and it gets people's minds think

4987
02:54:45,190 --> 02:54:41,840
wait a minute there is more to this

4988
02:54:47,910 --> 02:54:45,200
than blue states red states and

4989
02:54:49,429 --> 02:54:47,920
we need to we need to really think about

4990
02:54:51,269 --> 02:54:49,439
just kind of what president reagan said

4991
02:54:55,190 --> 02:54:51,279
what if there was an alien threat

4992
02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:55,200
right we all come together and i think

4993
02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:57,359
i think that's a lot of why this came

4994
02:55:02,469 --> 02:54:59,439
out truthfully

4995
02:55:04,950 --> 02:55:02,479
i i love that this is a bipartisan issue

4996
02:55:08,389 --> 02:55:04,960
and a bipartisan curiosity

4997
02:55:10,870 --> 02:55:08,399
it defies every thing we know it defies

4998
02:55:14,070 --> 02:55:10,880
religion it defies language it defies

4999
02:55:14,870 --> 02:55:14,080
politics it defies science a lot of the

5000
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:14,880
times as well

5001
02:55:18,870 --> 02:55:17,279
absolutely i think again that's why i

5002
02:55:20,870 --> 02:55:18,880
love this topic so much

5003
02:55:23,349 --> 02:55:20,880
and that's why i love that you guys like

5004
02:55:26,309 --> 02:55:23,359
take this journey with me every week or

5005
02:55:26,870 --> 02:55:26,319
whatever so my work i truly appreciate

5006
02:55:28,630 --> 02:55:26,880
that

5007
02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:28,640
and i love hearing from you guys about

5008
02:55:33,349 --> 02:55:30,479
this because it makes me feel

5009
02:55:35,110 --> 02:55:33,359
um i'm gonna get all emotional it makes

5010
02:55:38,469 --> 02:55:35,120
me feel like

5011
02:55:40,950 --> 02:55:38,479
these two decades of my life that i've

5012
02:55:42,469 --> 02:55:40,960
given to this topic have been worth it

5013
02:55:44,469 --> 02:55:42,479
and that there's other people out there

5014
02:55:47,190 --> 02:55:44,479
no matter your race your color your

5015
02:55:49,269 --> 02:55:47,200
sexual orientation whatever that are

5016
02:55:50,230 --> 02:55:49,279
just as interested as i am in finding

5017
02:55:52,469 --> 02:55:50,240
answers so

5018
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:52,479
i love that man i really love it thank

5019
02:55:55,590 --> 02:55:53,680
you thank you

5020
02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:55,600
i'm gonna i'm gonna boot you out my man

5021
02:56:00,150 --> 02:55:57,520
after giving us that beautiful uh

5022
02:56:01,590 --> 02:56:00,160
observation you're out of here thank you

5023
02:56:03,510 --> 02:56:01,600
so much for coming in

5024
02:56:06,070 --> 02:56:03,520
hey thanks for all you do see you guys

5025
02:56:08,950 --> 02:56:06,080
thank you thank you

5026
02:56:11,349 --> 02:56:08,960
all right and then there were three

5027
02:56:11,910 --> 02:56:11,359
invisible night school let's go my man

5028
02:56:13,910 --> 02:56:11,920
my name's

5029
02:56:15,190 --> 02:56:13,920
nick by the way okay i wasn't sure if

5030
02:56:17,269 --> 02:56:15,200
you wanted me to reveal that

5031
02:56:18,550 --> 02:56:17,279
it doesn't matter i like it i love it

5032
02:56:20,230 --> 02:56:18,560
okay so what do you think

5033
02:56:21,590 --> 02:56:20,240
take away important takeaways from the

5034
02:56:23,750 --> 02:56:21,600
report two things

5035
02:56:24,710 --> 02:56:23,760
uh one i like that it was written in a

5036
02:56:28,070 --> 02:56:24,720
way

5037
02:56:29,349 --> 02:56:28,080
that would kind of fire up congressman

5038
02:56:31,990 --> 02:56:29,359
you know what i mean congress people

5039
02:56:32,630 --> 02:56:32,000
yeah uh by by issuing like hey this is a

5040
02:56:35,269 --> 02:56:32,640
threat

5041
02:56:35,670 --> 02:56:35,279
this uh is happening in our aerospace

5042
02:56:38,150 --> 02:56:35,680
because

5043
02:56:38,950 --> 02:56:38,160
that's going to push legislation to fund

5044
02:56:41,269 --> 02:56:38,960
this right

5045
02:56:43,269 --> 02:56:41,279
and that's what we want hypothetically

5046
02:56:44,790 --> 02:56:43,279
um and the second big one

5047
02:56:46,389 --> 02:56:44,800
and it's stuff we touched on just a

5048
02:56:48,230 --> 02:56:46,399
moment ago the kind of like out there

5049
02:56:49,910 --> 02:56:48,240
stuff the uh the language that they use

5050
02:56:51,269 --> 02:56:49,920
they said

5051
02:56:53,429 --> 02:56:51,279
our current understanding our current

5052
02:56:56,309 --> 02:56:53,439
science might not be up to the task

5053
02:56:57,590 --> 02:56:56,319
and just that that's in a report that

5054
02:57:00,630 --> 02:56:57,600
came from the us government

5055
02:57:01,429 --> 02:57:00,640
is incredible in in my opinion because

5056
02:57:03,510 --> 02:57:01,439
like

5057
02:57:05,110 --> 02:57:03,520
the stuff i was talking about yeah i'm

5058
02:57:06,469 --> 02:57:05,120
i'm getting into that i'm accepting

5059
02:57:09,510 --> 02:57:06,479
these things but it is

5060
02:57:11,349 --> 02:57:09,520
out there and i'll admit it but uh put

5061
02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:11,359
that idea out there to more people

5062
02:57:14,950 --> 02:57:13,920
because these things aren't explicitly

5063
02:57:17,510 --> 02:57:14,960
little

5064
02:57:18,790 --> 02:57:17,520
people inside vehicles necessarily

5065
02:57:20,710 --> 02:57:18,800
because that is a

5066
02:57:23,429 --> 02:57:20,720
human construct you know what i mean so

5067
02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:23,439
absolutely open open up those doors

5068
02:57:26,710 --> 02:57:25,760
make room for creativity in this field

5069
02:57:29,670 --> 02:57:26,720
because

5070
02:57:31,190 --> 02:57:29,680
honestly over the past 70 years ufology

5071
02:57:32,870 --> 02:57:31,200
we've been collecting

5072
02:57:34,710 --> 02:57:32,880
oh what was the size and shape of the

5073
02:57:36,630 --> 02:57:34,720
object how far away was it like what do

5074
02:57:38,550 --> 02:57:36,640
we do with that information

5075
02:57:39,830 --> 02:57:38,560
nothing i don't know right exactly not

5076
02:57:42,309 --> 02:57:39,840
yet at least not yet

5077
02:57:43,429 --> 02:57:42,319
sure i think we need to be taking you

5078
02:57:45,670 --> 02:57:43,439
know

5079
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:45,680
an array of different approaches looking

5080
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:46,560
at cases

5081
02:57:53,510 --> 02:57:50,160
current ones and historical ones um

5082
02:57:55,429 --> 02:57:53,520
yeah that's about it awesome and no i

5083
02:57:57,830 --> 02:57:55,439
i agree with everything you said i think

5084
02:58:00,469 --> 02:57:57,840
you know i believe it was um

5085
02:58:02,150 --> 02:58:00,479
hawking's before he died said something

5086
02:58:04,710 --> 02:58:02,160
to the effect of um

5087
02:58:05,910 --> 02:58:04,720
you know philosophy is dead like the way

5088
02:58:08,150 --> 02:58:05,920
to move forward is

5089
02:58:10,070 --> 02:58:08,160
through science and science blah blah

5090
02:58:10,950 --> 02:58:10,080
and look the guy's a freaking genius i'm

5091
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,960
not gonna true

5092
02:58:14,150 --> 02:58:12,560
you know disparage him or argue with him

5093
02:58:18,389 --> 02:58:14,160
but i would argue

5094
02:58:22,309 --> 02:58:18,399
that philosophy is dead i think we truly

5095
02:58:23,990 --> 02:58:22,319
i yeah we we i think we need it though

5096
02:58:26,389 --> 02:58:24,000
i think there's a place for it i think

5097
02:58:27,349 --> 02:58:26,399
absolutely people who are willing to

5098
02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:27,359
challenge

5099
02:58:32,150 --> 02:58:30,399
science and say keep going see what

5100
02:58:33,590 --> 02:58:32,160
happens if you go a little bit further

5101
02:58:36,070 --> 02:58:33,600
with that instead of saying

5102
02:58:37,830 --> 02:58:36,080
it's done this is this is where science

5103
02:58:41,030 --> 02:58:37,840
is there's no moving forward

5104
02:58:43,349 --> 02:58:41,040
as as a former skeptic or debunker um

5105
02:58:44,790 --> 02:58:43,359
i really understand the perspective

5106
02:58:46,309 --> 02:58:44,800
coming from that perspective of putting

5107
02:58:47,910 --> 02:58:46,319
science up on a pedestal and saying like

5108
02:58:49,349 --> 02:58:47,920
no this is it this is how we figure it

5109
02:58:51,269 --> 02:58:49,359
out

5110
02:58:52,790 --> 02:58:51,279
and now coming to the realization that

5111
02:58:54,550 --> 02:58:52,800
even science is based on certain

5112
02:58:56,309 --> 02:58:54,560
presumptions we have to trust the

5113
02:58:59,590 --> 02:58:56,319
validity of our essential

5114
02:59:00,630 --> 02:58:59,600
sense experience right we have to trust

5115
02:59:04,630 --> 02:59:00,640
in blind faith

5116
02:59:06,309 --> 02:59:04,640
that our laws of nature are constant

5117
02:59:08,070 --> 02:59:06,319
despite evidence to the contrary think

5118
02:59:10,150 --> 02:59:08,080
about before the big bang

5119
02:59:12,469 --> 02:59:10,160
there those laws weren't there in that

5120
02:59:13,830 --> 02:59:12,479
spot we followed it back to that

5121
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:13,840
you know what i mean like those

5122
02:59:17,510 --> 02:59:15,600
fundamental laws of physics did not

5123
02:59:19,269 --> 02:59:17,520
exist before that point so they do

5124
02:59:20,950 --> 02:59:19,279
change but we're operating under the

5125
02:59:22,630 --> 02:59:20,960
assumption that they do and i'm not

5126
02:59:24,389 --> 02:59:22,640
discrediting science in any way and i

5127
02:59:26,309 --> 02:59:24,399
think it is a really good tool and we

5128
02:59:28,309 --> 02:59:26,319
have to at least incorporate that going

5129
02:59:30,150 --> 02:59:28,319
forward but we also have to i think

5130
02:59:32,469 --> 02:59:30,160
maybe incorporate philosophy

5131
02:59:33,670 --> 02:59:32,479
and phenomenology you know what i mean

5132
02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:33,680
and and why not

5133
02:59:38,870 --> 02:59:36,960
why why disregard a tool when we don't

5134
02:59:41,510 --> 02:59:38,880
know exactly how to solve the problem

5135
02:59:44,230 --> 02:59:41,520
we're looking at try everything

5136
02:59:45,990 --> 02:59:44,240
exactly and uh maybe there's another way

5137
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:46,000
to use that tool i love that man

5138
02:59:49,110 --> 02:59:48,080
nick thank you so much brother for

5139
02:59:51,590 --> 02:59:49,120
hopping in today

5140
02:59:53,110 --> 02:59:51,600
your thoughts were extremely insightful

5141
02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:53,120
thanks for your support and uh we'll

5142
02:59:55,510 --> 02:59:54,160
definitely talk soon

5143
02:59:58,230 --> 02:59:55,520
cool talk to you guys later thank you so

5144
03:00:01,990 --> 02:59:58,240
much take care and just to double down

5145
03:00:04,389 --> 03:00:02,000
on what nick was saying um i heard i

5146
03:00:06,870 --> 03:00:04,399
i this is not my thing but i heard this

5147
03:00:09,910 --> 03:00:06,880
uh somewhere i just can't remember where

5148
03:00:12,389 --> 03:00:09,920
but this idea like a hundred years ago

5149
03:00:16,469 --> 03:00:12,399
150 years ago

5150
03:00:18,790 --> 03:00:16,479
light was provided by candles

5151
03:00:21,510 --> 03:00:18,800
right like we were reading by candles

5152
03:00:23,830 --> 03:00:21,520
anytime it got dark he'd light a candle

5153
03:00:26,389 --> 03:00:23,840
the invention of the light bulb didn't

5154
03:00:28,790 --> 03:00:26,399
come from candle makers

5155
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:28,800
you know what i mean it came from fringe

5156
03:00:32,389 --> 03:00:30,080
it came from people thinking

5157
03:00:34,309 --> 03:00:32,399
outside of the box of a candle how else

5158
03:00:37,269 --> 03:00:34,319
can we light a room

5159
03:00:38,630 --> 03:00:37,279
without a candle you know okay is there

5160
03:00:41,830 --> 03:00:38,640
a way where we could just get

5161
03:00:43,830 --> 03:00:41,840
light instantly without burning anything

5162
03:00:45,269 --> 03:00:43,840
hence the light bulb you know that's

5163
03:00:47,750 --> 03:00:45,279
what that's what pushed

5164
03:00:48,790 --> 03:00:47,760
that innovation you know so it's sort of

5165
03:00:51,670 --> 03:00:48,800
the same thing

5166
03:00:52,630 --> 03:00:51,680
here it's like we've got science who's

5167
03:00:55,910 --> 03:00:52,640
saying

5168
03:00:56,550 --> 03:00:55,920
oh yeah no the the candle's the way to

5169
03:00:58,630 --> 03:00:56,560
go

5170
03:01:00,070 --> 03:00:58,640
like it's the only way this is how we

5171
03:01:01,670 --> 03:01:00,080
know how to light rooms this is what

5172
03:01:02,870 --> 03:01:01,680
we've been doing since the beginning of

5173
03:01:06,070 --> 03:01:02,880
time we've been using

5174
03:01:08,389 --> 03:01:06,080
fire to see at night

5175
03:01:10,150 --> 03:01:08,399
and then someone who was not in that

5176
03:01:13,429 --> 03:01:10,160
realm of thinking came along

5177
03:01:15,990 --> 03:01:13,439
and said no i got a better way and boom

5178
03:01:17,670 --> 03:01:16,000
light bulb so i think that's that's sort

5179
03:01:18,630 --> 03:01:17,680
of the same thing that we have to look

5180
03:01:21,910 --> 03:01:18,640
at here

5181
03:01:24,389 --> 03:01:21,920
sure we we we've leaned on this candle

5182
03:01:26,469 --> 03:01:24,399
of science for a long long time but now

5183
03:01:29,990 --> 03:01:26,479
the candle is at its end

5184
03:01:31,590 --> 03:01:30,000
and there's a new there's a new way and

5185
03:01:33,670 --> 03:01:31,600
we don't know the new way yet but we

5186
03:01:34,230 --> 03:01:33,680
could see it's coming like it's coming

5187
03:01:36,309 --> 03:01:34,240
so

5188
03:01:37,670 --> 03:01:36,319
you know i thought that was a really

5189
03:01:41,990 --> 03:01:37,680
good point but i'll say

5190
03:01:48,469 --> 03:01:45,349
notice and this is uh what's

5191
03:01:51,830 --> 03:01:48,479
i can't remember one guy who was here um

5192
03:01:54,150 --> 03:01:51,840
notice that nobody's yelling

5193
03:01:54,950 --> 03:01:54,160
at each other on this no congressmen are

5194
03:01:58,550 --> 03:01:54,960
arguing

5195
03:02:00,389 --> 03:01:58,560
there's no uh there's no uh left versus

5196
03:02:03,750 --> 03:02:00,399
right when it comes to the uap

5197
03:02:05,990 --> 03:02:03,760
discussion all of them are interested

5198
03:02:07,910 --> 03:02:06,000
all of them democrat independent

5199
03:02:11,190 --> 03:02:07,920
progressive republican

5200
03:02:12,070 --> 03:02:11,200
does not matter who you are you're

5201
03:02:14,790 --> 03:02:12,080
interested

5202
03:02:15,510 --> 03:02:14,800
it is a bipartisan issue it's an issue

5203
03:02:18,790 --> 03:02:15,520
that brings

5204
03:02:19,830 --> 03:02:18,800
everyone to the table everyone can have

5205
03:02:22,070 --> 03:02:19,840
an opinion

5206
03:02:23,030 --> 03:02:22,080
everyone can contribute to this

5207
03:02:26,870 --> 03:02:23,040
discussion

5208
03:02:30,469 --> 03:02:26,880
and and and the i think

5209
03:02:32,870 --> 03:02:30,479
not conclusion but the revelations of

5210
03:02:34,790 --> 03:02:32,880
this discussion are going to come not

5211
03:02:35,750 --> 03:02:34,800
from the candle makers but from the

5212
03:02:39,110 --> 03:02:35,760
fringe

5213
03:02:41,670 --> 03:02:39,120
aspect

5214
03:02:43,429 --> 03:02:41,680
of of the paranormal the people who are

5215
03:02:44,950 --> 03:02:43,439
thinking outside of the box

5216
03:02:47,030 --> 03:02:44,960
that's where these answers are going to

5217
03:02:47,750 --> 03:02:47,040
start coming from and don't be shocked

5218
03:02:50,630 --> 03:02:47,760
that

5219
03:02:52,870 --> 03:02:50,640
it's it's going to be just some random

5220
03:02:54,389 --> 03:02:52,880
person who maybe gives us the answer on

5221
03:02:56,309 --> 03:02:54,399
how these objects move

5222
03:02:57,990 --> 03:02:56,319
because now we've given the people

5223
03:02:59,910 --> 03:02:58,000
permission to think about

5224
03:03:01,750 --> 03:02:59,920
these things we've given them the

5225
03:03:05,030 --> 03:03:01,760
permission with this report

5226
03:03:08,710 --> 03:03:05,040
to go hey you think anti-gravity or

5227
03:03:10,710 --> 03:03:08,720
levitation or or uh you know anti-matter

5228
03:03:12,309 --> 03:03:10,720
machine is possible

5229
03:03:14,309 --> 03:03:12,319
go for it see if you can come up with

5230
03:03:15,990 --> 03:03:14,319
the design for it you know like

5231
03:03:17,670 --> 03:03:16,000
and i think it's gonna that's where it's

5232
03:03:18,630 --> 03:03:17,680
gonna come from that's where the answers

5233
03:03:19,830 --> 03:03:18,640
are gonna come from they're not gonna

5234
03:03:20,950 --> 03:03:19,840
come from our government

5235
03:03:22,630 --> 03:03:20,960
they're not gonna come from louis

5236
03:03:24,150 --> 03:03:22,640
lozando they're gonna come from

5237
03:03:26,950 --> 03:03:24,160
scientists and

5238
03:03:27,990 --> 03:03:26,960
and people who were inspired by the

5239
03:03:34,950 --> 03:03:28,000
truth

5240
03:03:37,190 --> 03:03:34,960
um and and so that's why this topic is

5241
03:03:40,950 --> 03:03:37,200
so damn exciting because

5242
03:03:44,309 --> 03:03:40,960
unlike covid unlike black lives matter

5243
03:03:47,750 --> 03:03:44,319
unlike the border unlike foreign policy

5244
03:03:49,830 --> 03:03:47,760
this is not a divisive issue like nobody

5245
03:03:51,830 --> 03:03:49,840
and i've said this a lot

5246
03:03:52,870 --> 03:03:51,840
nobody lost their mother because they

5247
03:03:56,230 --> 03:03:52,880
didn't have

5248
03:03:57,910 --> 03:03:56,240
enough uap information you know like

5249
03:03:59,510 --> 03:03:57,920
nobody's lost a loved one i don't mean

5250
03:04:01,349 --> 03:03:59,520
to laugh but that's you know

5251
03:04:03,030 --> 03:04:01,359
but the government nobody's dying

5252
03:04:04,950 --> 03:04:03,040
because the government didn't give you

5253
03:04:08,230 --> 03:04:04,960
enough in the uap

5254
03:04:10,070 --> 03:04:08,240
you know tf report you know like so

5255
03:04:12,070 --> 03:04:10,080
just keep that perspective in mind when

5256
03:04:16,230 --> 03:04:12,080
we get these things handed down to us

5257
03:04:18,230 --> 03:04:16,240
how is this affecting lives taxpayers

5258
03:04:19,990 --> 03:04:18,240
right not in a huge significant way you

5259
03:04:22,309 --> 03:04:20,000
know in their everyday

5260
03:04:23,670 --> 03:04:22,319
you know day-to-day lives but eventually

5261
03:04:25,910 --> 03:04:23,680
this conversation

5262
03:04:27,190 --> 03:04:25,920
is going to be a big part of their

5263
03:04:29,429 --> 03:04:27,200
everyday life

5264
03:04:30,309 --> 03:04:29,439
because there is a paradigm shift coming

5265
03:04:34,070 --> 03:04:30,319
when this is

5266
03:04:36,630 --> 03:04:34,080
will be

5267
03:04:38,389 --> 03:04:36,640
by the you know again this is 1996 in a

5268
03:04:40,469 --> 03:04:38,399
marijuana discussion imagine where we're

5269
03:04:43,750 --> 03:04:40,479
going to be in 2021 on the uap

5270
03:04:45,349 --> 03:04:43,760
discussion on this you know timeline

5271
03:04:47,110 --> 03:04:45,359
that i'm putting out

5272
03:04:48,389 --> 03:04:47,120
it's going to be a lot further than

5273
03:04:50,070 --> 03:04:48,399
where we're at today

5274
03:04:52,070 --> 03:04:50,080
and i think these conversations that

5275
03:04:53,190 --> 03:04:52,080
everyone wants to have the videos that

5276
03:04:55,990 --> 03:04:53,200
everybody wants to see

5277
03:04:58,070 --> 03:04:56,000
the two you know the the cooperating

5278
03:05:00,950 --> 03:04:58,080
evidence that everybody wants to look at

5279
03:05:01,910 --> 03:05:00,960
is going to be there at that point and

5280
03:05:03,910 --> 03:05:01,920
now

5281
03:05:05,910 --> 03:05:03,920
we can start applying these things to

5282
03:05:07,750 --> 03:05:05,920
everyday society and so that's why it's

5283
03:05:10,550 --> 03:05:07,760
going to eventually

5284
03:05:11,830 --> 03:05:10,560
affect or come to the doorstep of that

5285
03:05:14,070 --> 03:05:11,840
soccer mom

5286
03:05:15,830 --> 03:05:14,080
who now has to pay attention to it

5287
03:05:16,630 --> 03:05:15,840
because there's something she needs to

5288
03:05:18,790 --> 03:05:16,640
know

5289
03:05:20,230 --> 03:05:18,800
to either keep her family safe or

5290
03:05:23,750 --> 03:05:20,240
informed or

5291
03:05:25,750 --> 03:05:23,760
whatever it is i love that yeah

5292
03:05:27,030 --> 03:05:25,760
so a lot of hope a lot of hope a lot of

5293
03:05:30,150 --> 03:05:27,040
hope uh

5294
03:05:32,309 --> 03:05:30,160
a lot of fun this could be a lot of fun

5295
03:05:33,670 --> 03:05:32,319
hey we're not even a day out of this

5296
03:05:35,349 --> 03:05:33,680
report and i know

5297
03:05:37,269 --> 03:05:35,359
this live stream is going to be one of

5298
03:05:39,269 --> 03:05:37,279
thousands that are going to come out

5299
03:05:41,349 --> 03:05:39,279
and everyone has an opinion as they

5300
03:05:41,990 --> 03:05:41,359
should um you deserve to have that

5301
03:05:44,469 --> 03:05:42,000
opinion

5302
03:05:46,230 --> 03:05:44,479
yeah and uh i think it's awesome and i

5303
03:05:47,670 --> 03:05:46,240
love this last comment susan said

5304
03:05:49,990 --> 03:05:47,680
there's a new world coming

5305
03:05:50,950 --> 03:05:50,000
i think she's right i think you're right

5306
03:05:53,990 --> 03:05:50,960
um we're moving

5307
03:05:55,110 --> 03:05:54,000
into a an age of acknowledgement and we

5308
03:05:58,630 --> 03:05:55,120
haven't been there

5309
03:06:00,309 --> 03:05:58,640
in so long if ever before so i'm super

5310
03:06:03,190 --> 03:06:00,319
stoked about it man but um

5311
03:06:04,870 --> 03:06:03,200
hey before you go can you please tell us

5312
03:06:05,590 --> 03:06:04,880
where we can find everything you're up

5313
03:06:08,070 --> 03:06:05,600
to

5314
03:06:09,429 --> 03:06:08,080
and uh yeah thank you so much my man

5315
03:06:10,790 --> 03:06:09,439
well dude before i do i just want to say

5316
03:06:12,469 --> 03:06:10,800
thank you

5317
03:06:14,710 --> 03:06:12,479
like right i would say this all the time

5318
03:06:17,030 --> 03:06:14,720
dude like you're an inspiration you're

5319
03:06:18,469 --> 03:06:17,040
you are the hardest worker in this game

5320
03:06:20,469 --> 03:06:18,479
um you know i i

5321
03:06:21,910 --> 03:06:20,479
none of us a lot of us not none of us

5322
03:06:23,429 --> 03:06:21,920
but a lot of us wouldn't be here if it

5323
03:06:25,349 --> 03:06:23,439
wasn't for the two decades of work

5324
03:06:27,269 --> 03:06:25,359
you've put into this man you know you

5325
03:06:28,950 --> 03:06:27,279
we're standing on your shoulders i'm

5326
03:06:31,670 --> 03:06:28,960
brand new to this thing you know i

5327
03:06:33,110 --> 03:06:31,680
i always calling you to come on my show

5328
03:06:34,150 --> 03:06:33,120
and you're so damn gracious with your

5329
03:06:37,349 --> 03:06:34,160
time and dude

5330
03:06:38,469 --> 03:06:37,359
like this discussion if you thought the

5331
03:06:41,190 --> 03:06:38,479
last two decades

5332
03:06:42,150 --> 03:06:41,200
was fun just wait dude i think i think

5333
03:06:44,630 --> 03:06:42,160
you're gonna that

5334
03:06:46,550 --> 03:06:44,640
that that emotional gratitude is gonna

5335
03:06:47,910 --> 03:06:46,560
grow even more because i think we're all

5336
03:06:51,030 --> 03:06:47,920
gonna be validated

5337
03:06:53,590 --> 03:06:51,040
we're all going to and hopefully

5338
03:06:55,910 --> 03:06:53,600
when we do get validated we'll act as if

5339
03:06:57,590 --> 03:06:55,920
we've been there before it's not

5340
03:06:58,950 --> 03:06:57,600
i told you so these are real it's like

5341
03:07:00,870 --> 03:06:58,960
see these are real hey

5342
03:07:03,590 --> 03:07:00,880
we need your voice we need your opinions

5343
03:07:05,110 --> 03:07:03,600
come join us um so just thank you dude

5344
03:07:07,269 --> 03:07:05,120
so uh with that said

5345
03:07:09,990 --> 03:07:07,279
um you can find my channel uh the

5346
03:07:11,510 --> 03:07:10,000
unidentified celebrity review on youtube

5347
03:07:13,750 --> 03:07:11,520
we do a show every monday wednesday

5348
03:07:15,750 --> 03:07:13,760
friday on uap and ufos

5349
03:07:17,190 --> 03:07:15,760
and then on tuesdays and thursdays we do

5350
03:07:20,230 --> 03:07:17,200
technology and

5351
03:07:21,830 --> 03:07:20,240
fringe talk and singularity talk on

5352
03:07:23,670 --> 03:07:21,840
the singularity lab tuesdays and

5353
03:07:25,429 --> 03:07:23,680
thursdays so um

5354
03:07:26,710 --> 03:07:25,439
come check out our channel subscribe

5355
03:07:27,910 --> 03:07:26,720
ring the bell that way you don't miss

5356
03:07:30,950 --> 03:07:27,920
any live streams we do

5357
03:07:32,710 --> 03:07:30,960
interviews with a gamut of wonderful

5358
03:07:35,269 --> 03:07:32,720
people including ryan sprague

5359
03:07:35,830 --> 03:07:35,279
louis lozando mick west we talk to

5360
03:07:37,830 --> 03:07:35,840
everybody

5361
03:07:39,030 --> 03:07:37,840
we try to get perspectives from everyone

5362
03:07:42,070 --> 03:07:39,040
we try to

5363
03:07:44,870 --> 03:07:42,080
bring a grounded realistic prosaic

5364
03:07:45,590 --> 03:07:44,880
conversation to this topic and we also

5365
03:07:48,389 --> 03:07:45,600
keep it fun

5366
03:07:50,070 --> 03:07:48,399
and lighthearted so come join us because

5367
03:07:50,710 --> 03:07:50,080
it's a killer channel we're having a ton

5368
03:07:53,750 --> 03:07:50,720
of fun

5369
03:07:56,630 --> 03:07:53,760
and uh and yeah that's it thanks

5370
03:07:58,630 --> 03:07:56,640
i love it man someone said your uh your

5371
03:08:00,070 --> 03:07:58,640
your catchphrase let's get weird let's

5372
03:08:02,309 --> 03:08:00,080
get one i love it i love it

5373
03:08:03,429 --> 03:08:02,319
it's a weird topic it's weird it's okay

5374
03:08:05,990 --> 03:08:03,439
to say it's weird

5375
03:08:07,830 --> 03:08:06,000
it's okay so just just living that

5376
03:08:09,030 --> 03:08:07,840
comfortable in that in that awkwardness

5377
03:08:11,429 --> 03:08:09,040
of weird you know i

5378
03:08:12,230 --> 03:08:11,439
i'm just swimming i love weird i love

5379
03:08:14,630 --> 03:08:12,240
awkward

5380
03:08:15,990 --> 03:08:14,640
that's where i live you know uh the more

5381
03:08:19,030 --> 03:08:16,000
awkward the better

5382
03:08:21,269 --> 03:08:19,040
i say so yeah dude um

5383
03:08:23,269 --> 03:08:21,279
i i can't dude i cannot wait to see what

5384
03:08:25,590 --> 03:08:23,279
happens this next month

5385
03:08:26,550 --> 03:08:25,600
i know it's gonna be crazy it's gonna be

5386
03:08:28,950 --> 03:08:26,560
it's oily

5387
03:08:30,630 --> 03:08:28,960
yeah i mean we still haven't gotten like

5388
03:08:32,630 --> 03:08:30,640
responses from all of

5389
03:08:33,990 --> 03:08:32,640
i mean we've got right like you know

5390
03:08:36,630 --> 03:08:34,000
text we've gotten tweets

5391
03:08:38,230 --> 03:08:36,640
we've gotten you know op-eds but we

5392
03:08:38,870 --> 03:08:38,240
haven't gotten anybody on video going

5393
03:08:41,750 --> 03:08:38,880
okay let's

5394
03:08:43,750 --> 03:08:41,760
talk about this it's coming and what it

5395
03:08:45,429 --> 03:08:43,760
means you know what's next like what's

5396
03:08:47,030 --> 03:08:45,439
the next step like what do we have to do

5397
03:08:49,030 --> 03:08:47,040
as citizens to make sure

5398
03:08:51,349 --> 03:08:49,040
this discussion doesn't stop and this is

5399
03:08:53,190 --> 03:08:51,359
part of it what we're doing right now so

5400
03:08:55,429 --> 03:08:53,200
so it's important you guys out there are

5401
03:08:58,230 --> 03:08:55,439
important uh this channel is important

5402
03:08:58,870 --> 03:08:58,240
all of these uh different outlets to get

5403
03:09:00,710 --> 03:08:58,880
information

5404
03:09:01,990 --> 03:09:00,720
are important and what i would say to

5405
03:09:03,910 --> 03:09:02,000
you ryan is keep doing

5406
03:09:05,190 --> 03:09:03,920
stuff like this dude because your fans

5407
03:09:07,429 --> 03:09:05,200
love talking to you

5408
03:09:09,429 --> 03:09:07,439
um i know it's an uncomfortable format

5409
03:09:10,070 --> 03:09:09,439
it's new to you but you're great at it

5410
03:09:12,550 --> 03:09:10,080
you're great

5411
03:09:14,710 --> 03:09:12,560
oh thanks and there's no reason why ryan

5412
03:09:16,870 --> 03:09:14,720
sprague shouldn't be doing a live show

5413
03:09:18,550 --> 03:09:16,880
once at least once a week you know i

5414
03:09:19,190 --> 03:09:18,560
know you've got a ton on your plate as

5415
03:09:20,469 --> 03:09:19,200
it is

5416
03:09:21,990 --> 03:09:20,479
but you don't have to edit this when

5417
03:09:23,110 --> 03:09:22,000
you're done you don't have to do it you

5418
03:09:24,550 --> 03:09:23,120
just shut it off and you can

5419
03:09:26,309 --> 03:09:24,560
go do your thing that's what i'm saying

5420
03:09:29,110 --> 03:09:26,319
how relieving is that

5421
03:09:30,150 --> 03:09:29,120
oh my god that's a huge guys only knew

5422
03:09:32,710 --> 03:09:30,160
that's why i show

5423
03:09:33,910 --> 03:09:32,720
every week that's why i went from doing

5424
03:09:36,150 --> 03:09:33,920
two shows a week

5425
03:09:37,269 --> 03:09:36,160
to now five because i don't have to do

5426
03:09:39,269 --> 03:09:37,279
any of that stuff

5427
03:09:40,710 --> 03:09:39,279
i just turn on the camera have some fun

5428
03:09:42,550 --> 03:09:40,720
talk to my buddies

5429
03:09:44,229 --> 03:09:42,560
you know and go for it dude that's

5430
03:09:46,630 --> 03:09:44,239
that's the code it's the code

5431
03:09:48,389 --> 03:09:46,640
that's the code and that's what we yeah

5432
03:09:48,870 --> 03:09:48,399
that's the code of the matrix i love it

5433
03:09:50,550 --> 03:09:48,880
my man

5434
03:09:52,630 --> 03:09:50,560
thank you brother i'm gonna i'm gonna

5435
03:09:55,269 --> 03:09:52,640
boot you out thank you for your time

5436
03:09:56,389 --> 03:09:55,279
and um we'll see you uh around the bend

5437
03:10:00,630 --> 03:09:56,399
i can't wait to see what comes

5438
03:10:05,830 --> 03:10:03,910
wow um that was this could not have

5439
03:10:07,670 --> 03:10:05,840
gotten any better guys thank you thank

5440
03:10:09,750 --> 03:10:07,680
you for everyone who stuck around

5441
03:10:10,870 --> 03:10:09,760
to watch this for your comments for your

5442
03:10:14,070 --> 03:10:10,880
super chats i

5443
03:10:15,910 --> 03:10:14,080
greatly greatly appreciate it um all of

5444
03:10:19,429 --> 03:10:15,920
your support and everything so

5445
03:10:21,750 --> 03:10:19,439
before we go a few things today

5446
03:10:22,630 --> 03:10:21,760
um at contact in the desert the virtual

5447
03:10:25,269 --> 03:10:22,640
online event

5448
03:10:25,990 --> 03:10:25,279
i'm hosting a panel with three former

5449
03:10:28,070 --> 03:10:26,000
navy

5450
03:10:29,670 --> 03:10:28,080
personnel who were part of the tic tac

5451
03:10:32,510 --> 03:10:29,680
gimbal and go fast

5452
03:10:33,750 --> 03:10:32,520
events so i hope you'll hop over to

5453
03:10:35,830 --> 03:10:33,760
contactingthedesert.com

5454
03:10:36,950 --> 03:10:35,840
and check out that panel weekend passes

5455
03:10:38,710 --> 03:10:36,960
are available

5456
03:10:41,190 --> 03:10:38,720
um tomorrow sunday i'm going to be

5457
03:10:42,630 --> 03:10:41,200
giving a lecture called a human approach

5458
03:10:45,510 --> 03:10:42,640
to the ufo phenomenon

5459
03:10:46,790 --> 03:10:45,520
which is sort of based on my book

5460
03:10:48,150 --> 03:10:46,800
somewhere in the sky is a human approach

5461
03:10:49,910 --> 03:10:48,160
to the ufo phenomenon

5462
03:10:52,070 --> 03:10:49,920
which you can get on amazon right now as

5463
03:10:54,150 --> 03:10:52,080
well so i hope you will check out those

5464
03:10:57,150 --> 03:10:54,160
virtual events they're doing an

5465
03:10:58,389 --> 03:10:57,160
amazing job over there uh tickets are at

5466
03:11:01,190 --> 03:10:58,399
contactingthedesert.com

5467
03:11:01,670 --> 03:11:01,200
no more shameless marketing i promise um

5468
03:11:03,590 --> 03:11:01,680
and

5469
03:11:05,349 --> 03:11:03,600
coming up on the show this monday we

5470
03:11:08,790 --> 03:11:05,359
have walter bosley

5471
03:11:11,349 --> 03:11:08,800
a former fbi in afosi agent

5472
03:11:12,950 --> 03:11:11,359
and we talked for over three hours it's

5473
03:11:14,710 --> 03:11:12,960
probably one of the most epic

5474
03:11:16,950 --> 03:11:14,720
interviews i've ever had on summer in

5475
03:11:18,150 --> 03:11:16,960
the skies so he talks about everything

5476
03:11:20,710 --> 03:11:18,160
his career

5477
03:11:21,269 --> 03:11:20,720
um this whole other thread that he went

5478
03:11:23,670 --> 03:11:21,279
down

5479
03:11:25,429 --> 03:11:23,680
while working with those agencies with

5480
03:11:27,190 --> 03:11:25,439
the paranormal and ufos

5481
03:11:28,550 --> 03:11:27,200
and his thoughts on everything we talked

5482
03:11:30,630 --> 03:11:28,560
about today the report

5483
03:11:31,990 --> 03:11:30,640
and um the government's involvement in

5484
03:11:33,750 --> 03:11:32,000
this topic so i

5485
03:11:35,910 --> 03:11:33,760
highly suggest you check that out if you

5486
03:11:37,590 --> 03:11:35,920
haven't already the early edition is now

5487
03:11:40,469 --> 03:11:37,600
available for patreon

5488
03:11:41,590 --> 03:11:40,479
subscribers so if you want to get early

5489
03:11:43,510 --> 03:11:41,600
editions of the show

5490
03:11:45,190 --> 03:11:43,520
or if you want bonus episodes if you

5491
03:11:47,110 --> 03:11:45,200
want to be my guest on the show

5492
03:11:48,389 --> 03:11:47,120
there's all different rewards over at

5493
03:11:52,469 --> 03:11:48,399
patreon.com

5494
03:11:54,309 --> 03:11:52,479
somewhereskies

5495
03:11:56,550 --> 03:11:54,319
jason thank you so much buddy for the

5496
03:11:58,309 --> 03:11:56,560
super chat do a great job i really

5497
03:12:00,229 --> 03:11:58,319
really appreciate that again i'm

5498
03:12:01,750 --> 03:12:00,239
really new to this but you guys made it

5499
03:12:03,670 --> 03:12:01,760
very easy for me

5500
03:12:04,790 --> 03:12:03,680
um everyone's been incredible so thank

5501
03:12:07,190 --> 03:12:04,800
you thank you

5502
03:12:08,630 --> 03:12:07,200
um invisible said pick up the book yes

5503
03:12:11,110 --> 03:12:08,640
please check it out my man

5504
03:12:13,269 --> 03:12:11,120
um other than that guys we are on

5505
03:12:15,990 --> 03:12:13,279
twitter at summer skies instagram

5506
03:12:17,110 --> 03:12:16,000
at summer skies pod please make sure you

5507
03:12:19,110 --> 03:12:17,120
like this video

5508
03:12:20,389 --> 03:12:19,120
and subscribe if you are not click

5509
03:12:21,510 --> 03:12:20,399
notifications as well

5510
03:12:23,750 --> 03:12:21,520
you'll be the first to know when new

5511
03:12:25,590 --> 03:12:23,760
videos come out and that's it

5512
03:12:27,990 --> 03:12:25,600
that's all i got for you we went for

5513
03:12:30,870 --> 03:12:28,000
over three hours this was amazing

5514
03:12:31,590 --> 03:12:30,880
i gotta go get some actual breakfast and

5515
03:12:33,750 --> 03:12:31,600
another

5516
03:12:35,830 --> 03:12:33,760
round of coffee but thank you to

5517
03:12:37,590 --> 03:12:35,840
everyone for coming here tonight

5518
03:12:39,750 --> 03:12:37,600
and uh i look forward to hearing from

5519
03:12:41,190 --> 03:12:39,760
all of you about what comes next in the

5520
03:12:43,110 --> 03:12:41,200
field of ufology

5521
03:12:44,309 --> 03:12:43,120
in this pentagon ufo stuff and

5522
03:12:47,429 --> 03:12:44,319
everything in between

5523
03:12:48,150 --> 03:12:47,439
so once again as always keep your feet

5524
03:12:50,229 --> 03:12:48,160
on the ground

5525
03:12:52,150 --> 03:12:50,239
but never stop searching somewhere in

5526
03:12:57,110 --> 03:12:52,160
the skies have a great night guys

5527
03:13:01,349 --> 03:12:58,950
thank you angel thank you thank you for

5528
03:13:02,710 --> 03:13:01,359
the the super chat at the end there